User:CORNELIUSSEON

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[edit] City Center Theater

I would like to suggest that your insertion of the "formal" name of the City Center building is incorrect. It is nowhere inscribed on the building, and the current operator of the real estate (which is owned by the City of New York) calls the building New York City Center. Their 2005 IRS Form 990 return is headed "New York City Center Inc. (F/K/A City Center 55th Street Theater Foundation.)" Although I haven't read your referenced book, it is over 10 years old-in that period of time, the name of the building was "changed" from City Center to New York City Center, by the same corporation. (I have run the light board in this building for the last nine years.)

The most important reason why this is not the name of the building is in my sentence beginning "With the assistance of Lincoln Center ..." That is, the corporation with that exact name washed its' hands of the building and moved to Lincoln Center, where they now operate The New York State Theater! I plan to do more research before I touch your edit, because I respect your right to edit the article. Thank you for considering my point of view. Stagehand 19:43, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I won't quibble with your argument, since you say you work there, and have firsthand knowlege of the name. What I will do is change the sentence to read that it is the Historical name. One thing we all have to remember about buildings: Once they are formally named, they bear that name for their life, even though they may be re-named for various purposes as their life goes on. For example, I work for MTA NYC Transit, and our recently-acquired headquarters is at #2 Broadway. Our Parent, the MTA, has christened it the MTA Building, but it retains the historical name it has had since its inception #2 Broadway. MTANYCT's previous headquarters at 370 Jay Street in Brooklyn was originally named the Transportation Building when it was opened in 1951, and carries that name to this day, even though the Board of Transportation became first the NYC Transit Authority and now MTA NYC Transit, and the building was renamed the Transit Authority Building. Likewise, the series of buildings across Bowling Green - #1 and #25 Broadway - are collectively known as The Cunard Building, even though Cunard has been a memory for many years, and their successor - Cunard White Star Line - just recently moved to Brooklyn, and tie their ships (QE-2 and QM-2) in Red Hook. The current occupiers of the buildings have nothing to do with Cunard or Cunard White Star, but the building name remains the same thing although the addresses are used in any advertisements or public documents. As to why the Mason name for the City Center building did not remain permanent, I would suggest that the name was not associated with the building long enough to click in people's memories. My final example is the New York Central Building at 230 Park Avenue, just north of Grand Central Terminal. This building was built in 1929 as the headquarters for the New York Central Railroad, and remained such until the railroad passed from existance, and the building was sold to General Tire and Rubber, and renamed it the New York General Building, and even went to the trouble of changing the inscribed name on the building. When General Tire moved elsewhere, Helmsley-Spear bought the building, and named it the Helmsley Building, and gilded it up for their purposes. However, historically - and in many people's memories - it remains the New York Central Building. - SSG Cornelius Seon (Retired) 12:33, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Old Guard article (again)

Hey there Sergeant. We need you to weigh in again on the most recent argument over the naming of the 3rd US Infantry article. When you get a chance, would you be so kind? Thanks Ryecatcher773 01:01, 11 September 2007 (UTC)