Template talk:Copyedit

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[edit] Copyvio?

Shouldn't almost any article that meets this description be {{copyvio}}ed? So how about getting rid of this template and having it redirect to {{cleanup-copyedit}} instead? (After all, any article for which this tag is appropriate can have that one instead.) —msh210 16:35, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

  • I believe this is supposed to mean that it has been copied from public domain sources. For instance, if text is taken verbatim from NASA, or Britannica (1911), or any other public domain, then it should be properly formatted and the like to conform to WP's standards.--Dmcdevit 17:13, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Yeah, I have wondered why there was any point to this template. Since whenever I put it on the talk page of a article with copied text it 'automatically' turns into a copyright violation notice. If this article really does mention about free domain material then it should be properly stated on the template. - Louisisthebest_007 09:22, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikify / cleanup

[edit] Requested move

Template:Copyedit is the documented (and preferable) name, but it currently redirects to Template:Cleanup-copyedit (which has a brief history that prevents non-admins from performing the move). Lifeisunfair 17:46, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional brief explanation, then sign your vote with: ~~~~
  • Support. This is an uncontroversial move that a technical limitation has prevented me from carrying out. —Lifeisunfair 17:46, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Additional comments

[edit] Decision

Moved per request. Ryan Norton T | @ | C 10:58, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Spellingminor (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

The template is up for deletion. Since the user has spend effort into his template, maybe at least the graphic can be integrated into the existing copyedit template? Would be a pity otherwise I think... Gryffindor 03:34, 24 January 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Adding invitation

I am adding an invitation to readers to help, as many other cleanup type templates have. Also, I am changing the wording to copy editing from copyediting as few dictionaries seem to accept the single-word form, and this is about copyediting (er, copy editing) after all. Also removed the word English from the parenthesis as non-English articles will not be tagged with this template, and it shortens the long line which already wraps awkwardly. I debated adding a BR tag before the paren, but we'll see what comes of this before I do that. cmh 18:03, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template format

I've run across (and fixed) a number of pages with this template included incorrectly. The problem is for the vast majority of these cleanup-type templates, the first parameter is meant for date (in fact, I haven't seen any others that have a different parameter as the first). This results in tags such as "This February 2007 needs copy editing...". I didn't want to change anything, because I don't want to break any other pages, but I thought that this would be a good thing to think of/discuss. –Dvandersluis 16:55, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. I've edited the template's documentation to document its current operation, which substitutes a first parameter of arbitrary text for the words article or section. That is useful for replacing those with the word section, for example (see my edit to Qutbism#Term Qutbism) but can lead to errors such as the one you describe. Requiring the parameter to actually be the word "section" would be one solution. Wdfarmer (talk) 19:51, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] suggested cosmetic change

Perhaps the template should be made horizontally wider in appearance. What do you think? 69.140.164.142 04:02, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Using whatlinkshere rather than categories for maintenance lists

I've suggested most of the maintenance categories be eliminated in favor of a technique based on using whatlinkshere. Articles needing copyedit is an example I've used. Please comment on this proposal at Wikipedia talk:Maintenance#Using whatlinkshere rather than categories for maintenance lists. If no one speaks up, I'll be bold and change the template. -- Rick Block (talk) 01:59, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I have a test version at Template:Copyedit/test, and have changed two articles to use this version. It looks no different on an article, but instead of adding the article to two maintenance categories creates invisible references to two non-existent articles (the template links to the page that explains how to find other articles needing copy editing). See, for example, this version of Jose L Torero (using the current template) vs. this version (using the test version of the template). Again, if anyone has any problems with this change, please speak up. -- Rick Block (talk) 03:49, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Please comment on the broader issue at Wikipedia talk:Maintenance#Using whatlinkshere rather than categories for maintenance lists. -- Rick Block (talk) 04:12, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copyedit Tag needs copy editing

Would it be possible to get the text of the copyedit tag changed? "This article or section needs copy editing for grammar, style, cohesion, tone and/or spelling."

'and/or' isn't really valid so it's kind of funny to see it in a statement regarding copy editing. Simply using "or" sufficiently indicates that any combination of grammar, style, cohesion, tone, and spelling need to be addressed. Either that or it should be changed to "and/exclusive or" but even that is implied by a simple "or" while avoiding the awkwardness of reading "and/exclusive or".

Wikipedia even has an entry about "and/or" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And/or

This page also provides a quick synopsis regarding why and/or shouldn't be written http://www.geocities.com/thorin.geo/and_or_invalid.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.103.96.11 (talk) 19:54, 23 October 2007 (UTC)


Agreed. I've made the change you suggested. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 20:04, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Thank you!

[edit] Should this template be protected?

Yesterday, this template was vandalised with a picture of a penis, affecting hundreds if not thousands of pages. The vandalism was reverted within minutes, but nonetheless had an immediate and dramatic effect on Wikipedia. In order to avoid this happening again, and in accordance with the guidelines at Wikipedia:High-risk templates, I suggest this template be (at least) semi-protected. (Many similar templates, such as {{Cleanup}}, already are.) Does anyone else agree? Terraxos 01:56, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes; try semiprotect. Tony (talk) 03:34, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
In response to a request on WP:RFPP, this template has now been indefinitely semiprotected. Terraxos (talk) 00:43, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Thank you, Terra. Tony (talk) 00:50, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] much better icon

Thanks for getting rid of that squinty, garish yellow thing. TONY (talk) 08:53, 30 May 2008 (UTC)