Talk:Coprolalia

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[edit] Pronunciation

How the heck do you pronounce this word? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.58.158.194 (talk) 01:30, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Botox

has someone confirmed that Botox-to-the-vocal-cords thing? that's too funny. Estephan500 18:31, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

I removed that. It's quite clearly a joke/vandalism. (Some patients have been treated by injecting botulinum toxin near the vocal cords. This does not prevent the vocalizations, but the partial paralysis that results helps to control the volume of any outbursts.) - 139.184.30.17 10:32, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Check PubMed or google; there are numerous studies. I cited only three, but there are more. Please consider checking google before deleting content. Sandy 13:27, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
It doesn't change the fact that it's ridiculous at best and medical malpractice at worst.
Thank you for your insight, Doctor. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.248.219.26 (talk) 10:14, 3 April 2007 (UTC).
"Rediculous" or not is not relevant. See Appeal to ridicule. If you can find verifiable secondary sources reporting that it's medical malpractice, that can be added. Personally I doubt such sources exist. 208.81.43.46 (talk) 17:31, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
It's not in any way "clearly a joke/vandalism"...While it is certainly true that botox is one of the deadliest toxins in existence, it does not prevent it from probably being used in medicine. While I'm not a medic, I have some understanding of chemistry, based on the fact that I'm studying it at the university...and as in all cases with toxins or generally dangerous chemical substances, the main factor in their potential lethality is the concentration. If the concentration is sufficiently low, an otherwise toxic substance will cause no to little harm: the specific dosage which is lethal has not been reached, as the mass concentration (and thus the mass, speaking in absolute terms) of the specific agent in a solution is too low. As such, toxins that are sufficiently diluted may very well be used as a treatment - in this case it seems to be true, as the user undoubtedly gave sources.
You may be surprised, but it is actually possible to spill an entire beaker of sulphuric acid in one's face and get away completely unharmed (I know, first hand experience) - if the acid is diluted enough (in that case, the concentration was something like 1*(10^-7) mol*L^-1 or even lower...) Vargher (talk) 21:16, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Origin of word

This articles says coprolalia comes from greek lalia meanning "meaningless talk" yet the glossalalia page says that "lalo" means merely "speaking." Why the discrepancy? Amulekii 05:24, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't know: I didn't insert that text, and I'm not certain of the answer. Sandy 12:34, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Thank you Sandy, that was most helpful.

[edit] Original research removed

Removed anon original research from article for discussion:

  • Although this figure of an occurence of less than 15% of patients that have coprolalia is often quoted, it is hard to find any hard evidence that supports it. A review of abstracts from "Medline" would suggest a more likely figure, supported by research, of over 30%. 195.248.119.71 (talk · contribs)

If the anon editor who inserted it wants to discuss, I'll explain. Sandy 23:10, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

I added studies and context to the article, to explain the misapplication of older data. Sandy 20:17, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How do they pick up the words?

You can't use words you don't know.

Granted, it's very hard nowadays to be sheltered from swearing and cursing, but I'm relieved that in my curiosity I found that the percentage of those with TS who exhibited this is considerably less than half. Because the way the media and others have stigmatized this, it makes it sound like people pick up swear words even if they've never heard them; and that's not possible, language must be learned.

That brings me to my question, which I think should be part of the topic. How, do those with this pick up the words, and why do they automatically use taboo words? Like, say for instance, I know someone with TS who has never heard ****. He hears it, I act shocked, and so he figures it's taboo. Does the part of his mind that says not to say it then turn off, or what?

Further, what about someone growing up in an environment where the words are *not* taboo, like some inner cities where every 2nd word is ****? Does this person then *not* say the taboo word becasue where they've grown up, they haven't learned it is taboo?

All things I was curious about when I looked up this article, and probably all things that are far too complex for anyone to include *in* the article. But, I thought I'd ask.63.3.19.130 01:35, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

"I know someone with TS who has never heard ****"
Wikipedia is NOT CENSORED!!!!!! Just kidding. Excellent questions.--Threedots dead (talk) 18:32, 14 April 2008 (UTC)