Talk:Coppa Italia 2008-09
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[edit] Seeding chart
First of all, I do not think we should include a seeding chart until a definitive tournament format has been released. We now know that there must be more entrants than last year, since an extra round has been added. This ensures that all Serie A and Serie B teams will compete, but we do not know at what round they will enter the tournament. Secondly, I propose that we reach a consensus on the format of the seeding chart. The table used in last year's article is rather unwieldy. I propose that we model the section after the lists found at UEFA Champions League 2008-09. I have commented out the current chart for the time being. —Ed Cormany (talk) 19:08, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Italian Calcio Blog had mentioned the change, but still nothing specific. Also, they also state the final will most likely be in Rome. But I agree Ed, until we know who gets what seedings (which I would assume to be similar to last years' format, champions being first, Serie A's Europe contenders next, then the rest on down) we shouldn't have a section on it. As per the UCL's seeding list, that is much easier on the eyes and way easier to gather information from, so it'd be most beneficial to include it here as well, for sure. --Snojoe (talk) 04:46, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
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- As Il Corriere dello Sport said in its article on May 29th, Coppa Italia has been re-opened to Serie C and Serie D clubs. These clubs will be chosen by the Lega Professionisti Serie C and the Comitato Interregionale, probably referring to 2007/08 league standings, even if reserving four places for Coppa Italia Serie C and Coppa Italia Serie D finalists. Serie C & D clubs will enter in the first round, Serie B in the second one, non-European Serie A clubs in the third one. 8 seeded Euro-clubs (Inter, Roma, Juve and Fiorentina in UCL, Milan, Samp and Udinese in Uefa cup, Napoli in UIC) will join in the fifth round.--Akrothiri (talk) 13:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Akrothiri, do you have a link to that article online? Even without, I'd say we could go ahead and start the lists including the Serie A and Serie B teams, since we have a better idea of who is qualified, and their placing. —Ed Cormany (talk) 20:15, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- A summary of that article is shown here [1]. Unfortunately, detailed infos were only on paper-version of Il Corriere dello Sport. --Akrothiri (talk) 23:15, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, that looks great, and is good enough to cite in the article. I'm a little dubious about the statement that only the semifinal will have two legs...that seems to be an extrapolation on the part of Corriere. Based on the dates given, it looks like other rounds are set up for two legs as well. —Ed Cormany (talk) 02:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- If you look at the official document of Lega Calcio, only semifinals are scheduled of two legs (andata and ritorno) [2]. Round of 16 and quarterfinals have planned in many days because the international calendar doesn't reserve free dates for domestic cups outside January. Lega Calcio's President, Antonio Matarrese, said that Coppa Italia is slowly moving towards the model of the Coupe de France, even if the reform seems to be more similar to the Football League Cup. --Akrothiri (talk) 23:39, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Interesting. Last year they announced lists of dates in the same way though, and they were eventually parceled out into andata and ritorno days. I guess we'll just have to wait for absolute confirmation. —Ed Cormany (talk) 01:44, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- Well, because the link I provided way up above lists dates for two legs of the Quarterfinal, maybe we should probably wait until we're closer to the tournament itself and see the bracket and if it lists multiple dates/fixtures for the Quarterfinal round; it is simple, though, that the Semifinal is definitely on a two-legged basis, and the final is a one-legged affair. --Snojoe (talk) 08:53, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- Interesting. Last year they announced lists of dates in the same way though, and they were eventually parceled out into andata and ritorno days. I guess we'll just have to wait for absolute confirmation. —Ed Cormany (talk) 01:44, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- If you look at the official document of Lega Calcio, only semifinals are scheduled of two legs (andata and ritorno) [2]. Round of 16 and quarterfinals have planned in many days because the international calendar doesn't reserve free dates for domestic cups outside January. Lega Calcio's President, Antonio Matarrese, said that Coppa Italia is slowly moving towards the model of the Coupe de France, even if the reform seems to be more similar to the Football League Cup. --Akrothiri (talk) 23:39, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, that looks great, and is good enough to cite in the article. I'm a little dubious about the statement that only the semifinal will have two legs...that seems to be an extrapolation on the part of Corriere. Based on the dates given, it looks like other rounds are set up for two legs as well. —Ed Cormany (talk) 02:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- A summary of that article is shown here [1]. Unfortunately, detailed infos were only on paper-version of Il Corriere dello Sport. --Akrothiri (talk) 23:15, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Akrothiri, do you have a link to that article online? Even without, I'd say we could go ahead and start the lists including the Serie A and Serie B teams, since we have a better idea of who is qualified, and their placing. —Ed Cormany (talk) 20:15, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- As Il Corriere dello Sport said in its article on May 29th, Coppa Italia has been re-opened to Serie C and Serie D clubs. These clubs will be chosen by the Lega Professionisti Serie C and the Comitato Interregionale, probably referring to 2007/08 league standings, even if reserving four places for Coppa Italia Serie C and Coppa Italia Serie D finalists. Serie C & D clubs will enter in the first round, Serie B in the second one, non-European Serie A clubs in the third one. 8 seeded Euro-clubs (Inter, Roma, Juve and Fiorentina in UCL, Milan, Samp and Udinese in Uefa cup, Napoli in UIC) will join in the fifth round.--Akrothiri (talk) 13:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
