Talk:Constantin Brâncuşi

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This article or section should be translated (or additional material should be added from material at ro:Constantin Brâncuşi). Please translate this.

What is this about? Is this corect? "His parents, Nicolae and Maria Brâncuşi, were poor peasants who sold there bodies for money, and from the age of seven he herded the family's flock of sheep. As a young boy he was mollested many times by a bear." "sold there bodies for money"??? And "was mollested many times by a bear"?? This sounds plain weird.

Sources mention that he was born in Hobitza. See:

• http://www.guggenheimcollection.org/site/artist_bio_22.html.
• http://www.ifh.ee.ethz.ch/~oswald/brancusi/biography.html

olivier 17:27 Jan 20, 2003 (UTC)

Yes, it seems he was born there. Here's a link to his memorial home

• http://www.cimec.ro/Brancusi/Albume/index_2.htm

[edit] Brancusi Virtual Encyclopedia

The following was removed as a "vanity link": *"Constantin Brancusi Virtual Encyclopedia - 2 multimedia CDs from the Noesis Cultural Society

I agree that the particular link looks like a vanity link but I know Noesis Cultural Society, their work is generally excellent (certainly the best cultural multimedia work in Romania, and among the best in the world). I'm not defending the particular link, but we should still probably make some mention of that work.

As all too often happens with things Romanian, I can't find any other relevant link besides the one from the people who built it. -- Jmabel | Talk July 7, 2005 06:00 (UTC)

It was probably me who removed it - I tend to be sensitive about people inserting external links to commercial sites without explanation. However, I'm easily persuaded to reinsert, if several unrelated editors think that a link has value irrespective of its promotional element.

However, in this case, the link doesn't seem to tell us anything much about Brancusi and Wikipedia probably shouldn't just be advertising the CDs any more than we should link to a book on Brancusi unless it was used as a reference. -- Solipsist 7 July 2005 08:22 (UTC)

I removed it. I get only a blank page when I load the URL, using two different browsers. In any case, if we rewrote the listing to read "Constantin Brancusi Virtual Encyclopedia, by the Noesis Cultural Society" it wouldn't seem so much like promotion. --sparkit (talk) July 7, 2005 13:51 (UTC)

The link works fine for me; I think it's Macromedia Flash (which won't show up if you lack the plug-in), even though it's low-key (damn multi-media folks, there's nothing on the page they couldn't have done perfectly well in HTML). I guess it's not that big a deal, if the link seems useless to several people. -- Jmabel | Talk July 8, 2005 06:04 (UTC)

Are the CDs a useful resource for someone who wants to further study Brancusi? Would we question the link's inclusion if it were to a book? If they are a useful resource, I say restore the link. (I have Flash. Maybe it's a browser detection thing and it doesn't recognize any Mac browsers as legitmate.) --sparkit (talk) July 8, 2005 13:54 (UTC)

I would imagine they are, but I haven't seen them. Again, I'm just going on the publisher's reputation. I have some of Noesis' multimedia CDs, they are among the best things of the sort I've ever seen, but I don't know this particular one. -- Jmabel | Talk July 8, 2005 22:16 (UTC)

Well in general, no, we don't include external links to sites selling a book on a subject, no matter how good the book is. However, we do routinely include Bibliography or Further Reading sections where such books would be listed using the wiki-magic ISBN link (which avoid favouring any particular bookseller). Since this is a CD-ROM, I guess the ISBN trick won't work, so an ext-link is probably appropriate in this case, but we could still move it to a Further Reading section. -- Solipsist 9 July 2005 08:42 (UTC)

Great idea! --sparkit (talk) July 9, 2005 19:00 (UTC)

[edit] A link

I notice that this link:

• www.ModernFurnitureClassics.com Transcript of an interview with Isamu Noguchi regarding his time working in the Brancusi Studio.

... was recently removed without comment from the article. I don't have a strong feeling about it either way (it's moderately interesting, might be a useful citation to link Brancusi and Isamu Noguchi someplace, but doesn't necessarily rise to the level of a reason to link if its not cited) but, generally, when removing something like this there should be an edit summary. - Jmabel | Talk 06:40, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name

Why is the article named Constantin Brâncuşi, whereas he is referred throughout the article as Constantin Brancusi? I think one should make a choice, and stick to it. The same thing happens in dozens of pages that refer to Brâncuşi -- about half use one spelling, and another half the other. Can this be resolved, one way or the other, for consistency? Turgidson 20:41, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I moved the article back to "Constantin Brancusi" per Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(standard_letters_with_diacritics)#Guideline_in_a_nutshell.

Reference: Getty Union List of Artist Names. --sparkit^TALK 17:03, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

This moving back and forth between Brâncuşi and Brancusi is getting a bit disorienting. Have we reached a stable state, at last? I've been trying to update the links to Brâncuşi/Brancusi in several other articles to keep up with the changing title for this one, but I'm no longer sure that's the right thing to do... Turgidson 21:20, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I moved it to "Brancusi" (since moved back to "Brâncuşi") based on the informal agreement of those on the Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Visual_arts#Artist_naming_conventions Visual Arts Project, which is to use the Getty Union List of Artist Names preferred name. Plus what I read at the diacritics page linked above that at the time I read it looked like policy, but now has a "failed policy" notice on it. From what I can tell there's no wikipedia consensus on which way to go. --sparkit^TALK 22:58, 19 March 2007 (UTC)