Talk:Conservative Holiness Movement

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[edit] Duplicate?

How does this differ from the Holiness movement? The article isn't really clear as to the differences. Perhaps this article should be merged with the Holiness movement article. KHM03 15:11, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Not a duplicate. The Holiness Movement article refered to is a general overview of the Holiness Movement of which the Conservative Holiness Movement would be a part.

[edit] POV

I went through and changed a number of references from "liberal" holiness groups (Nazarenes, Wesleyans, etc.) to "mainstream" holiness groups. In addition to the negative connotations of "liberal" from the "conservative" point of view, there were a few places I simply erased that were flat out dogging the mainstream holiness groups.JasonMiller 04:15, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!! :) MWTallman (talk) 02:53, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bias Commenting

I am the original author of this content, I have once again cleaned up the biased commenting related to this article and will continue to do so.

Please keep this article as neutral as possible!

Consider the following lines:

"Although in recent years, more and more churches are tending more toward the mainstream, seeking common ground with the very churches they left to make the movement fit in this present age by focusing on bigger numbers and self-pleasure."

"The movement itself is somewhat isolated from liberal holiness groups due to its stance on holy living (dress, fashion, and entertainment). Although in recent years, more and more churches are tending more toward the liberal, leaving the teachings of Scripture behind and following the present world."

These comments are entirely biased and condescending. We are not trying to debate here. This article seeks to define the CHM, it's beliefs and distinctions. That is it. Both sides exist because of fundemental differences and more obviously, both sides genuinely believe their side to be right. We are defining the movement itself, not defining the movement to start an argument.

Please keep biased and argumentative comments off this article and stop hijacking this post! Comments such as this only isolates this post, and come across as merely subjective. Thanks!

MWTallman (talk) 02:11, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV Tag added

As a Christian, but complete outsider, I find the current article biased toward the "mainstream" holiness groups. For example, to say that there is little difference between the conservative and mainstream groups does little to explain the difference, and implies prudishness on the part of the "conservatives" Also, I find the the consistent use of "mainstream" also to be biasing. Some alternative between "mainstream" and "liberal" needs to be selected. Theriddles

NPOV tag has been removed as biased commenting has been removed from the article. The article seeks to define the "conservative" movement as it compares to it's "mainstream" counter-part. The article references "come outers" and this should describe the difference between "conservative" and "mainstream". The word "liberal" has been removed as it defines a group in a biased fashion.

MWTallman (talk) 02:50, 12 April 2008 (UTC)