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Why was the Fitzcairn info removed from the page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.218.46.19 (talk) 13:32, 30 September 2007 (UTC) Question: Who keeps deleting the reference to Connor being alive still in 2024? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.218.46.19 (talk) 22:07, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

1 Connor canon continuity
2 Fair use rationale for Image:Highlander.jpg
3 Unsourced info
4 Quotes
5 Image provenance
6 Scientist?
7 Removed section
8 Fair use rationale for Image:Congath.jpg
9 Fair use rationale for Image:Confas.jpg
10 Fair use rationale for Image:Connor highpic8.jpg
11 Fair use rationale for Image:Connor sword.jpg
12 Enemies

[edit] Connor canon continuity

I'd like for there to be more explanation of the death of Connor at the end of Endgame and whether or not H2 ever really took place.

Highlander II did not occur in the "series" canon, but that does not prevent it from being its own autonomous sequel. --TOOTCB 20:44, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Highlander.jpg

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I don't see why we shouldn't keep it. It has the wrong template through, because it's not a screenshot either, as far as I remember. If anyone can provide the source for the picture, I can change the template and write the FURs for the three pages it appears on. Thanks Rosenknospe 12:01, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Done. Rosenknospe 11:27, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unsourced info

I am sorry, but the Highlander novels are not considered canon for the subject matter. Ergo, the info cannot remain. However, someone can try to convince us that the info is citable and verifiable enough (and someone can cite a reliable source that tells us the books are canon), we might be able to re-insert the data. Until then, it is posted below.

Highlander: The Element of Fire

This Highlander novel tells the adventures of Connor with Duncan and their confrontation with Khordas. Events from the book:

1610 - Connor is rescued from the sea off Cape Horn by the Jugleor, captained by Farrell. Travelling with them, he befriends the first mate Carmichael and learns much of seamanship.

1625 - After meeting Duncan Macleod the duo goes to Aberdeen on business and encounter Nerissa, another Immortal. The next day the two Highlanders spend the day carousing with Connor's old friend Carmichael, now Captain of his own vessel. But when they see Carmichael off the day after, they witness helplessly as his ship is destroyed by fire, a blaze started by Nerissa and her insane Immortal husband Khordas (who believes himself to be a god). Nerissa shoots Connor in the chest, ensuring the two villains' escape.

1632 - Back in Scotland, Connor and Duncan hear of a village that has been attacked by Khordas. They travel there and begin tracking him, their pursuit lasting a couple of months, before they finally catch up with both Khordas and Nerissa on Rannoch Moor. Duncan takes Nerissa' head, but Khordas manages to escape.

1853 - Connor, currently captaining the HMS Rosemarie, agrees to give passage to America to Duncan and his newest student, a young woman named Amber Lynn.

1854 - Having picked up a shipment of guns and explosives in China, the Rosemarie is attacked by Khordas and his new Immortal partner Lauren. Khordas takes Amber Lynn's head, and then destroys the Rosemarie. Only Duncan and Connor survive from the ship's company.

1897 - Connor is again a seaman, this time the gunrunning Captain. David Carruthers, captain of the Dido. When Khordas and Lauren reappear in Duncan's life in his new Nantucket home, he calls on Connor and the two finally end their long running feud with Khordas, taking his head (but Lauren escapes).

- Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 04:51, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

The closest Highlander has to "canon" is the Watchers' Chronicles CD, which includes information from this novel. Therefore, the canonicity of this section should not be in question. However, considering the lack of consistency throughout the franchise, declaring anything as "not canon" is ludicrous. --69.65.172.89 20:31, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Quotes

This doesn't belong in the article. It can all be ported over to Qikiquote and linked to the artilce near the bottom. Here, it is all cruft:

Quotes

"I'm Connor MacLeod of the Clan MacLeod."
"Stop it, you pompous haggis!"
"If it came down to us two, would you take my head?"
"Whatever you say, Jack. You're the master race."
"It seems like 100 years."
"I'm immortal."
"Love is for poets."
"It's a kind of magic."
"I cannot die."
"Don't worry. We'll be okay."
"You're not counting that scratch!"
"I'm Connor MacLeod. Same Clan. Different vintage."
"Do you think we ever lived like this, like a tribe, together with a common language, a reason and a name for each living thing? Did we once belong somewhere, a time, a place, however briefly?"
"As long as I can remember knowing you you've had all the fun and most of the good women."
"Come on. That was nearly one hundred and sixty years ago."
"The last one will have the power of all the immortals who have ever lived. Enough power to rule this planet forever. If someone like Slan is that last one, mankind will suffer an eternity of darkness for which it will never recover."
"There's a fresh breeze blowing off the loch. The glen is snowy and cold. It's the most glorious sight on Earth. I've found no place to match it in four hundred years."
"In the days before memory, there were the Immortals. We were with you then, and we are with you now. We are driven by the endless fight to survive in a Game which knows no limits of time or place. We are the seeds of legend, but our true origin are unknown. We simply are."
"Once, a very long time ago, I was a Highlander. Born of this land and like this land: Immortal."
"Every life I touch ends. Brutally and for no reason. It's a curse that followed me through centuries. I can't outrun it and I can't outlive it."
"I'm Connor MacLeod of the Clan MacLeod. And like you, my friend, I have a hard time dying."
"Life brings hope and pain, but revenge never brings redemption."
"Neither one of us can beat him alone."
"One of us has to die now, my friend. And you know it."
"There can be only one."

-Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 20:41, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image provenance

I am a bit concerned that the press photo for the series showing Paul/Lambert

has been licensed as a free image released by the copyholder. A closer look at the uploading indicate it was taken from a MySpace page of someone named "Donut", who I am guessing wasn't closely associated with any aspect of the series aside from watching it on tv. I am afraid this image is facing speedy removal for improper licensing. I am noticing this license side-stepping popping up more and more, but then it could just be due to me learning more about them.

I am thinking we might want to go over all the images and make sure of the licensing. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 22:12, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Scientist?

Is Connor MacLeod a scientist in Highlander II? --68.224.247.53 03:06, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

No, he's magical. like the Keebler elves or My Pretty Pony. Highlander 2 never happened. wink, wink... :) - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 06:14, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

MacLeod is not a scientist, but he funds the work done by Alan Neyman, who is a scientist. And, of course, he can read everyone's minds by this point anyway (thanks, Prize!).--TOOTCB 09:36, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed section

I removed this section becaus ethere were no citations in it whatsoever, and fan speculation has precisely no weight in Wikipedia. However, in the off-chance that some of it can be cited (remember, blogs, forums and the like are not considered reliable enough for inclusion), I am porting the section to here. Please do not re-add any portionof the section without solid citation, please.

Reconciliation

Although the TV series is generally considered to be in a different reality than the films, many fans have tried to reconcile the timeline. Due to the convoluted continuity of the films and series, a popular explanation of inconsistencies has arisen. One theory holds that, in Highlander: Endgame, Connor goes to the Watcher Sanctuary, where he remains in a drug-induced state for 10 years, during which time certain incongruous details from the films might be hallucinatory dreams (especially the events of Highlander II). However, this is only conjecture, and should not be taken as series canon.

Also, some fans choose to retcon the plot of Highlander: The Final Dimension to fit this timeline by disregarding any references to the Gathering and the Prize. This film has never been officially incorporated into the TV series canon onscreen, but in the recent Highlander comic book series (itself part of the TV universe), its events were referenced in a storyline involving Duncan MacLeod.

- Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 06:14, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

The section was initially added to discourage editing by fans who wanted to reconcile details from Highlander III. However, since they have desisted, the section is no longer necessary.--69.65.172.89 20:28, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Congath.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 06:52, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Confas.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 04:45, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Connor highpic8.jpg

Image:Connor highpic8.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

BetacommandBot (talk) 04:50, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Connor sword.jpg

Image:Connor sword.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

BetacommandBot (talk) 04:51, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Enemies

Why is Jacob Kell the only enemy listed? The Kurgan and (gasp...from the unspeakable sequels...)The guys from 2 and 3 should be there as well. Hooper (talk) 16:40, 18 January 2008 (UTC)