Talk:Confederated Tribes of Siletz

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Contents 1 Distinguish Tribe and Reservation 2 Query: re Siletz 3 Merger 4 Page Additions and Layout 5 Location of the Reservation 6 Author links on Suggested Reading

[edit] Distinguish Tribe and Reservation

After a little discussion {see below), we agreed to create a tribal page (this page) and link to a reservation page each with the appropriate information. Let's see how it works!rewinn 04:49, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Query: re Siletz

Howdy! I see that you may have renamed "Confederated Tribes of Siletz" to "Siletz Reservation", citing the Federal Register. I suggest restoring "Confederated Tribes of Siletz" as the page that refers to the tribe. A section within that page, or a separate page, might concern the reservation itself.

I just spent the weekend visiting family on the Siletz Res. With great respect, I submit that the tribe is not the same thing as the reservation, and the members of the tribe refer to themselves with respect to the confederated tribe, not the reservation; see http://www.ctsi.nsn.us/ I believe most, perhaps most of the enrolled members don't even live on the reservation, and of course there are many "missing moccasins".

Well, I whole-heartedly agree the Reservation and the Tribe are not the same, but if you check out most all other Tribes on the Wikipedia (if they have an article, that is), the format is to feature not the Tribe but rather the Reservation. Some exceptions to this trend, for example, are the Sandy Lake Band of Mississippi Chippewa (listed by Tribe) and the Chippewa Cree Tribe of the Rocky Boys Indian Reservation (listed by both Tribe and Reservation). Ideally, all the Tribes and the Reservation ought to be listed separately, but currently, we're not there yet and there are a whole group of people involved in the Wikipedia:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America who are slowly assessing what is in Wikipedia, so that we can see what is missing, what articles need to be started, what articles need to be expanded, and what articles just need polishing. If you would like to contribute to the Wikipedia process, please, please do... and you can start off by separating the Siletz Reservation article to just the Reservation and creating a Tribal page for the Confederated Tribes of Siletz, as well as possibly creating a Tribal page for each of the individual component Tribes that form the Confederated Tribes of the Siletz Reservation. CJLippert 02:14, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

OK, thanks, I'll get started. I didn't want to be stepping on any toes. I just signed up for Wikipedia:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America- it looks pretty interesting. Hopefully I can involve the tribal historian and some of the smart young kids at the highschool - although mostly the latter seem to be into myspace ;-) rewinn 17:38, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merger

I feel that the article Chinook Winds Casino should be merged with Confederated Tribes of Siletz as their is very little information pertaining to the casino and therefore, I do not feel that it is substantial enough to stand alone. T. White 09:17, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Oppose-I think the casino article merits expansion, not merger. We have various categories and lists about casinos in the U.S. and Oregon that would be rendered less useful if the casinos were merged with the tribal articles. Katr67 16:50, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Oppose- I agree with Katr67 on this issue. Ndnguy 07:43, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Page Additions and Layout

I've been adding information to the Confederated Tribes of Siletz page, mostly historical stuff, as it stands there is a LOT of info that is missing. Once complete I'll have all references and such up. If there is any discreprences with my additions (specifically the run to the rogue dates - I recall it taking place in 1995 but I believe I'm wrong) or removal of information, please do not hesitate to discuss here. Ndnguy 10:20, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

• References are going to be coming up, I have to re-order, rent a large number of books. I'll also have to do some research for exact dates, but that shouldn't be too hard.

[edit] Location of the Reservation

...Is reported as being 15 miles northwest of Newport. That seems... unlikely. 24.124.46.246 19:10, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Author links on Suggested Reading

After digging I noticed that this was the only entry posing a link to a non-existent entry about E.A. Schwartz. Given the state of his bibliography and the fact that he's focussed mostly on teaching during the past ten years, I took the liberty of removing the wikilink.

I imagine he'd be somewhere between bemused and mortified to find out that it's occurred to anyone to write a Wikipedia entry about him. I figure I speak with at least some authority on the point, since I'm his son. Persist1 19:42, 14 January 2007 (UTC)