Talk:Coney Island hot dog

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Contents 1 "Coney Island" hot dogs 2 What is the difference: Coney Dog VS Chili Dog? 3 Vandalism 4 All arguing...

[edit] "Coney Island" hot dogs

Coney Island hot dogs are not the kind served in Coney Island, NY. Note that the external links are all for Michigan companies, except Koegel's, which started in Michigan but is now in Florida. -- Cecropia 08:58, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Koegel's is a Michigan company, still headquarted in Flint Township, and is NOT in Florida and is not available in Florida stores. Read more at [1] Steelbeard1 14:33, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What is the difference: Coney Dog VS Chili Dog?

Is there a difference between the two, or are the names interchangable?

The image below shows the two different 'styles.'

Which one is the real "Coney Dog?"

http://img414.imageshack.us/img414/5565/dogs6nz.jpg

Image "A" for sure.−HiRanger 16:12, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Image B looks like the "real Flint Coney Island" served everywhere in the Flint, MI area (where Koegel's originated). Image A looks like the version served in Detroit, which Flint residents call a chili dog. Flint residents are adamant that only the Flint version is a "real" Coney Island. 68.188.169.162 05:19, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Too specific to Detroit's version ==

I'm from Syracuse, NY and anywhere remotely near here refers to a plain, pork hot dog as a Coney. I don't eat chili dogs, but I'm very sure that if you asked for a chili dog, you'd get a normal hot dog with chili on it. I do know that you can't ask for a Coney in the Southern US and have them understand what you mean, so its obviously a regional thing. My opinion then is that since it originated in Coney Island (New York State), the article should define a Coney as a pork hot dog; Detroit's version should be listed as a variation and not the de-facto "Coney Island Hot Dog". Static3d 13:28, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

In Houston, Texas there is a local restaurant chain that sells Detroit-style Coney Island hot dogs named James' Coney Island. The chain was started in the 1920's by Greek immigrants to Houston named Tom and James Papadakis. The photo of the Detroit Coney Island hot dog looks exactly like one sold by James Coney Island in Houston. The company website is http://www.jamesconeyisland.com

       Sorry but those are not Detroit coneys they use meat in thier chili.

I was born, raised and still live in Jackson, Michigan- HOME OF THE CONEY DOG - I grew up on the things. They have never changed or been added to in my lifetime. The main Problem is people most often confuse "Chili Dogs" and "Coney Dogs". The 'B' photo above is a decent picture of a "Coney Dog". The 'A' picture is definatly some kind of "Chili Dog". Coney Island Hot Dogs or "Coney Dogs" in these parts are: Primarily- Beef Wieners (and I say Wieners so they are not confused with Ball Park Franks or hot dogs that "Plump" when you cook em') They stay about the same skinny size even after cooking. Cooking = Grilled on a flat, iron, or stainless steel griddle over gas flame heat(like the griddles in a dinner that they fry eggs on). The buns are white, plain and soft. The Dogs are topped with "Coney Sauce", which is a dry, spicy, beef mixture- very simular to taco meat. While most people think of a "sauce" as being a liquid or having a solid/liquid consistancy, "Coney Sauce" is almost a DRY product. A small amount of natural juice is created in the sauce from low simmering it after cooking, but, never like a tomato or soupy sauce you would get from chili.- Next is raw diced yellow or white onions on top of the sauce (although here in my town you can ask for fried/cooked onions).And finally all is topped with Yellow Mustard. You can add a sprinkle of Red Pepper Fakes yourself or just chomp them down without. A bottle of Cold Beer, Coke or a Vernor's Ginger Ale is the popular drinks of choice to wash them down with here.

As I tell people all the time, there is a big difference between Chili and Coney Dogs to the people who know, just as there is a big difference to those who know the difference between Dressing and Stuffing at Thanksgiving.

A local reporter/celebrity, Brad Flory, recently tried to eat 1 Coney Dog an Hour for 24 hours. Sadly he failed in his attempt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.147.187.98 (talk) 04:31, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

I added a citation which credited Charles Feltman of Coney Island with originating the hot dog at [2] to foil vandals. Steelbeard1 19:52, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] All arguing...

All Arguing Aside, I LOVE CONEY ISLAND HOT DOGS(!) like the kind depicted herein... I Just Love'em!!! Michael 18:09, 8 October 2007 (UTC)