Talk:Concert Artist Recordings

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This article corresponds to the article concerning Joyce Hatto. Since the label also produced work for another artist (Fiorentino) and since it is now suspected that his work may also be misattributed, it seems logical to create and independent article concerning this. --Otheus 00:47, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Is it "Concert Artists" or "Concert Artist"? I've seen two different articles published in the same paper each giving a different variant. I'm creating a redirect but it would be good to get something definitive.

I've also seen both, and someone correctly added "Fidelio Recordings", for which I added a redirect, and moved the article to "Concert Artist Records". Barrington-Coupe also redirects here, which seems like a good idea for the time being. --Otheus 18:13, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

BTW, I also dab'ed your link above, hope you don't mind. -- Antaeus Feldspar 18:30, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Barrington-Coupe

While Barrington-Coupe may need an article for himself, at the present time, I would say that for all intents and purposes, Concert Artist Records is Barrington-Coupe, and would vote in favor of renaming / recasting the article rather than adding a separate one. --Otheus 18:13, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

As such, I've added the BLP tag here.

Though "for all intents and purposes, Concert Artist Records is Barrington-Coupe", the reverse does not apply, so I've now created a separate article on William Barrington-Coupe, drawing on a number of sources to make a reasonably substantial entry. The man clearly has form, as they say.

Since we've now separated the man and the company (at least here in WP), I've moved the BLP tag there.

Further editing of the WB-C article is welcomed, of course.

-- Jmc 07:35, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dubious claim

Before being put back in, the following needs some references:

It was not the first time that doubts had been expressed over the authenticity of Concert Artist recordings, which also released recordings of the Chopin Mazurkas which, they claimed, had been recorded by Alfred Cortot. There is no evidence that these recordings were genuine.

Keep in mind that since the article is linked with Barrington-Coupe, any unsourced claim must be removed immediately.

--Otheus 11:33, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

The 'Cortot Edition' Mazurkas are visible on the Concert Artist website [1]. There is no evidence that Cortot ever recorded the Mazurkas, they were never issued on 78, and no other company has ever issued the recording. They are not included in the Farhan Malik Cortot Discography, which is regarded as one of the reputable sources for discographics[2] For these reasons, there is no evidence that they are genuine. However, unless the pianist can be identified, they cannot be definitively proven to be fakes. Rconroy 17:02, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Right, but until someone else says so, we can't say one way or another here. --Otheus 14:21, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Ernst Lumpe left this on my comment page. Since I wasn't responsible for the edit in question, I've moved it here. I hope this is the correct procedure! Hello Stesimbrotus, taking the expression "stub" for serious and trying to expand your piece on the label Concert Artist recordings, I nonetheless see that you erased my contributions. I gather you have no "referenced info" to convince yourself that my contributions were true facts. So why do you erase the names of Leonard Cassini, the Aeolian String quartet etc.? Apparently you have never seen an Lp of Concert Artist with these artists? I have them on my shelves. Furthermore the name of Dubravka Tomsic is only listed on the web page of CA, the label NEVER released material with her (in fact it was just a plan to distribute the Tomsic material of the American label IPO, someting which eventually did not happen, not the least because the Hatto hoax broke). I always find it fascinating how many miss-researched things are spread on Wiki pages. I had a similar experience with one of your Wiki fellows re the horribly misleading page about Concert Artists's founder and owner W.H. Barrington-Coupe of recent infamity. That page is full of errors and some stupidites, but everything's "nicely referenced" so it must be true, no? 'I would believe you agree that it has no use to spread wrong information, even though it is "referenced" somewhere in articles or notes written by people who don't have a deeper or even insider knowledge of the matter but who just spin off things they heard somewhere. If you are really interested in publishing complete true facts I would invite you to contact my privately. If you are interested in all aspects of the terrible Hatto hoax go to Andrys' Hatto Hoax pages. 11:20, 18 December 2007 (UTC) E. Lumpe, elumpe@gmx.de —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.1.207.226 (talk) Stesimbrotus (talk) 19:33, 5 March 2008 (UTC)