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[edit] Colonizing

What is colonizing articles? The color scheme here is going to eventually be used on Portal:Community which will indeed be a colony of ideas. I apologize for rattling your cages. I hope an association with me is not too much of a stigma. Your suggestions are most welcome. Thanks for your understanding. CQ 21:48, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

I explained that in my note on your page, in terms of hierarchical relationship: The template and box indicate a hierarchical relationship. For example, the box on an article suggests that that article is a sub-set of the set "Community." Thus, there can be little doubt that "Commuity development" merits a template and box. Cultural anthropology (an academic discipline quite separate and much broader than the study of community), on the other hand, does not. "Community psychology" might merit the template/box, but we should ask people in that field whether they agree.
So I used the term "colonizing" to imply bringing under the control of. Cultural anthropology is not part of "Community." Slrubenstein's response is a reaction to this, IMO. As he says, "Community studies" relates, but most of "Anthropology" does not.
Very good Sunray. Thanks! You can look at me as a sort of technician. I look at (see) you and DoctorW as academics. I think that a community of practice needs to have well-defined roles. The first role of a community practitioner is to examine m:roles. Thoughts? CQ 22:31, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Contents of the Nav box

I've raised a number of points at Talk:Community. Most serious, IMO is the inclusion of disciplines such as Psychology, Anthropology, Sociology etc. Psychology and sociology are fields that study community. These fields study much more than community and they tend to look at community from a particular perspective. They just add to the size of the box, without really illuminating anything for the reader, IMO.

Which brings me to my second point: the box is way too big to be at the top of the article! If you look at effective Nav boxes in other articles, they are a handy way to navigate to other related major sub-topics. Take a look at the Nav box in United States (it is down near the bottom of the article). In a long article, it is a nice way to move on to other related topics (some of which may have links in the article; others, which do not).

Thus, third, after wrestling with the box in the lead (hard to not have blank white space), could it not be further down in the article? Sunray 22:08, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Inndeed it can. I wrestled with it for an hour! Big thing on my min is the aesthetics. I appreciate your comment to the + side on that. See below in new topic "Color scheme" below.

[edit] Repair

I removed the following from the template per discussion elsewhere.

|-
| style="font-size: 95%; background-color:LightSteelBlue"|Perspectives
|-
| style="font-size: 95%; background-color:Linen;"|
[[Cultural anthropology|Anthropology]]<br />
[[Sociology of community|Sociology]]<br />
[[Community psychology|Psychology]]<br />
[[Social philosophy|Philosophy]]<br />

and replacing it with:

|-
| style="font-size: 95%; background-color:LightSteelBlue"|Perspectives
|-
| style="font-size: 95%; background-color:Linen;"|
[[context of community]]

...which includes an article that I'm writing myself from a lay person's perspective. It will contain a hint of POV from this layman. Deal with it ;)

Sorry for any inconvenience. • CQ 22:04, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Aesthetics

Part of the series on
Community
Concepts

Sense of community
Other

List of community topics
Community Portal
Join project

Aesthetics: I'm using X11 color names because they are easier to remember and talk about.
(Not cryptic + I'm biased toward open source = Forgive me)

Icon: I chose Community.gif because it was already here, had the correct filename and you have to start somewhere.

Plum and PaleGreen: I'm using Plum and PaleGreen to frame the logo cell because they are the closest colors I could find to the corner puzzle piece and the bottom frame piece and building on the idea of the jigsaw puzzle which has iconic significance to our readership.

Reasoning: So I'm expanding the idea of community as a massive puzzle with its central references in the lower right hand corner. If you look in the lower right hand corner of any page on Wikipedia, you will see its power source. If you click on that link, it will take you to the entity that started the puzzle. So, this schema builds from the lower righhand corner to the upper lefthand corner and build upon the foundation of how things work and who makes them happen.

Experience: I chose "NavajoWhite" for what I call the "fundemental relationship identifier". I have no idea why. Here's the code:

{| class="toccolours" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0" style="float: right; margin: 0 0 0.5em 0.5em; text-align:center; border: 1px solid Black;"
| style="font-size: 90%; text-align:center;" | Part of the series on
|-
|height="30" style="font-size: 100%; background-color:Plum; text-align:center; margin-bottom:5px;"|<big>'''[[Community]]'''</big>
|---
| align=center |
[[Image:Community.gif|center]]
|-
| style="font-size: 95%; background-color:PaleGreen;"|Concepts
|-
| style="font-size: 95%; background-color:Linen;"|
[[Sense of community]]<br />
|-
| style="font-size: 95%; background-color:NavajoWhite;"|Other
|-
| style="font-size: 95%; background-color:Linen;"|
[[List of community topics]]<br />
'''[[Portal:Community|Community Portal]]'''
|-
| style="font-size: 95%; background-color:Plum;"|[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Community|Join project]]
|}

Note: Your comments, questions and concerns are very important, but please do not comment in this section. Start a new section. If you have a comment about content inclusion, please take it to Talk:Community. Thanks! • CQ • 23:43, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Considerations

Initial considerations: I was dropping {{Community}} and {{WikiProject Community}} on artiles and their talk page like mad. Just having a ball and getting carried away. I think I rattled a few cages in relation to trying to tie the idea of Community to the idea of Cultural anthropology. Man, did I get in trouble! Oh well, I made the "Repair" above and here is a taste of the aftermath:

From Templates and tags at CQ
Posted to Template talk:Community on 00:27, 30 July 2006 (UTC) by CQ
To clarify: I think that both the template and the Nav box have merit but with some qualifications:
1. The template and box indicate a hierarchical relationship. For example, the box on an article suggests that that article is a sub-set of the set "Community." Thus, there can be little doubt that "Commuity development" merits a template and box. Cultural anthropology (an academic discipline quite separate and much broader than the study of community), on the other hand, does not. "Community psychology" might merit the template/box, but we should ask people in that field whether they agree.
2. The box still needs some work. It is confusing to me as it is (and I'm in the field).
3. We should avoid shotgunning these things around — build on quality, IMO.
Just some initial thoughts. User:Sunray 21:33, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Note to self: lay people's terms nearly always come out as red links.

List of lay people's terms


[edit] Context of community

Context of community has been created. • CQ 03:23, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Moved to User:CQ/Context of community and redirected to context • CQ 02:34, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Community studies

Community studies has been added to the series. CQ 01:49, 3 August 2006 (UTC)