Talk:Compassion International
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[edit] Free advertising
This article strikes me as being more of a free advertisement than an encyclopedia article. It also doesn't strike me as noteworthy in any sense. Perhaps a conensus should be held for deletion? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.33.132.19 (talk • contribs)
- Compassion has been sitting on a back-burner in the theorhetical to-do list of my mind for quite some time; I'll look into tinkering with it this evening. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 12:01, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
ok. so you see this as free advertisement, how else would you write the article? compassion has just as much right to be represented here. i see the article as merely stating what compassion does and how they operate. how is this a problem? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Focus on time (talk • contribs)
No, this is not advertising. It is a non-profit charitable organsisation. The page isn't very comprehensive as say the Red Cross page, however, it does state the organisation's basic philosophy. Don't worry, I'm in the process of updating some information on the page. Bgoodlin 17:09, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
It still pretty much reads like a promotional brochure for the organization. Particulsrly considering Compassion's involvement in Ministry Watch's well-publicized bashing of rival Christian Children's Fund (www.ministrywatch.org/mw2.1/pdf/MWDA_042704_CCF.pdf) It seems to me that this is significant enough to mention, since it could well affect peoples' donation decisions. 69.139.158.74 05:58, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
To the above user: Go back and read your .pdf document a bit more closely and you'll see that Ministry Watch is a watchdog organization that educates donors about facts regarding different Christian Ministries. Further, the document you've highlighted fails to prove that Compassion in any way is 'involved' with the alleged 'bashing' that is also mysteriously lacking in your document. If you've got a personal grudge against Christianity, please try to find another outlet. - Rhodizzle
01-Aug-2007: Two things. I'm not sure how to rewrite the page as it has been suggested. Any thoughts? Also, I don't know what that reference added to the end of the first paragraph has to do with that paragraph. Why was it added? The article has nothing to do with that sentence or paragraph or thought. I'm considering removing it. Bgoodlin 21:32, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
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- Have a look at Wikipedia:Verifiability.--Addhoc 21:38, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
- --I'm not disputing the veracity of the article - I'm familiar with it. My concern is that is is just plain out of place. Do we just find any and all articles written about Compassion and post them as references to random parts of the page? Wouldn't the placement of the article fit in with the rewrite?Bgoodlin 21:20, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
- Bgoodlin If you're looking for suggestions, I think the article could do with loosing the whole section titled Compassion Foundational Beliefs and gaining a brief and factual history. The word-for-word repetition of of the mission statement and goals etc. isn't really appropriate for an encyclopedia, and I suspect it's a big part of what made the original poster talk about it reading like and advertisement. We should be writing about the organization in a more analytical way rather than simply repeating their own message. I've already removed the external links directly to their advocacy and sposonor a child pages - which really are inappropriate. Also, If you know the organization you may know where to find a little more about ways in which they are significant from an organizational perspective (follow the x methodology, or made front page news because of Y). It also really needs some independent, third party sources about the impact the org has had on the world. I know this is difficult - our media and universities don't give the charitable/voluntary sector the same sort of coverage as they do business - but without independent verification most claims about impact don't stand up to our requirements for sources. -- SiobhanHansa 09:20, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Reset
I've removed all the advertising, and added some info and links. More info needs to be found (not just copied off the organizations website). CitiCat ♫ 20:45, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
- Page looks cleaner, that is for sure. However, why did you remove the partner counties from the list? Compassion International is the Umbrella organization that works with the USA, Australia, UK, Italy.... and each of those countries have their own presidents and what not. Wouldn't that have been 'encyclopedic' to list? That isn't advertising.... I so do not have an eye for this stuff, haha. I'm a finance guy - not an journalism/english guy. Bgoodlin 15:38, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- That information certainly could be added back in, but the paragraph as it was written was unusable. I'd add it back in myself, but I'm not sure I understand it - "Today, Compassion helps the impoverished children through the caring support of strong partner networks with central offices in the following countries:". Does that mean the C.I. has offices in those countries, or that they "partner" with organizations that have offices in those countries? If anyone knows the answer to that please add it in. CitiCat ♫ 01:05, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
Hello, my name is Julie and I work for Compassion International. In response to your question about Compassion's partnership, we work with 11 other countries that offer the same child sponsorship program that we do, but for their respective countries. In other words, the international offices that we work with are independent of Compassion International, however they voluntarily agree to follow our direction. These offices have their own Presidents and CEO's who meet regulary with Compassion International's CEO. Jkoshy 20:45, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Compassion Taiwan
Compassion Taiwan has nothing to do with Compassion International - it just so happens to share the same name.Bgoodlin (i forgot my password)65.112.244.2 15:45, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
I deleted all references to Compassion International Taiwan. The other organizations that are part of Compassion International include: Compassion UK, Compassion Australia, Compassion Canada, Compassion Italia, Compassion Suisse, Compassion Deutschland (this office will open in December 2007), Compassion France, Tear Fund NZ, Compassion Netherlands and Compassion South Korea.Jkoshy 22:37, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- The article was merged some time back so I've reverted the redirect and added a disambiguation header here. It's not a standard header, but i think it makes sense to list out the affiliates here since we probably ought to have redirects for them and it makes it clear that the other one isn't affiliated without making it sound like a bad thing. It is long though, so if someone has another idea that would do the same without the length, that would be good. -- SiobhanHansa 23:53, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
