Talk:Comparison of media players/Archive 3

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jetAudio and MPEG-4 video format

I believe that jetAudio depends on the availability of a DirectShow filter for MPEG-4 video playback, and one is included as part of the jetAudio installation. Wikipedia XP 18:07, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

Missing Media Player

Someone add DivX to the list with it's appropriate stats. 71.250.51.234 03:08, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Winamp unicode support

Winamp currently doesn't support unicode characters in ID3v2 tags. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.7.166.164 (talk • contribs)

Vandalism warnings

The warnings are exaggerated. This page is vandalized relatively little and does not justify all of the warnings. In fact, I'd say the warnings are partially giving into vandals on more than one level. Also, after I made the template replacements it went from 74KB to 55 KB and now it's already up to 63KB. Those reasons aside, I don't believe the actual request from the warnings is entirely reasonable for such an article. Much of this information can't be found from a verifiable "source" other than oneself testing the players' capabilities. How would one go about providing such a "source" to the Wikipedia editors?

Everything in Wikipedia does not have to be sourced/referenced, but it does have to be verifiable. Consider the type of article this is and the fact that software is not always well documented and decide whether the verifiability rules for Wikipedia should apply. You would find a lot more {{dunno}}s if everything had to be verified in such a way as described in their policy. If you don't believe someone then the answer is not to blantantly and ignorantly revert an edit, but to verify it for yourself. Anyone too lazy to do such a thing, in my opinion, shouldn't concern themselves with it. All but one of the players has a free version, so there is little excuse. --Kamasutra 18:32, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Fair points. I just thought it might be a good idea. Feel free to revert them though if you think they're not suitable. I've not reverted anything, but I did notice some reversions for unsourced edits so I thought that might have been the policy for this page ;)  -- Run!  19:40, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Music/media locator protocol support

It would be nice to have a table comparing which players support which music location protocols - DAAP (itunes), and the Universal Plug and Play (UPnP) MediaServer protocol are the only two that i know off, but there may be others.

82.68.161.101 01:59, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Cleanup needed

This article needs cleanup. It lacks sufficient encyclopedic context to explain its importance, and does not provide references for the information in the tables (though ostensibly some documentation somewhere does contain this information). The Features table contains speculation on future improvements to the software. The information is not checked for accuracy; for example, iTunes should be listed as supporting at least as many proprietary formats as QuickTime, since iTunes uses QuickTime for playback — other inaccuracies may exist, this one only serves to point out that the article has not been properly fact-checked. Protocol and format support are incomplete, and the range of codecs compared seems rather arbitrary considering the sheer number of codecs available, as does the choice of subtitling formats. —donhalcon╤ 20:59, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Disagree on the context, but initial paragraph needs to be cleaned up. I see no speculation in the features table--only caveats (such as "available with a plugin"). I also don't immediately see which formats it is claimed are supported by QuickTime & not iTunes (perhaps I'm blind, since I missed both this and the previous issue). Feel free to complete protocal and format support. Also, feel free to add more format columns (though, each format should hopefully be notable enough for an article). --Karnesky 21:47, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
The speculation is in the footnotes; the differences between iTunes and QuickTime are in the proprietary formats. I don't believe that protocol and format support could ever be reasonably completed at a tolerable level of quality, which is why I'm not working on it myself. —donhalcon╤ 21:53, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Can you please point to WHICH footnote? Notes 1-9 don't seem to have any crystal ball speculations. I thinkt the "proprietary format" column should be removed, with preference for the individual table of formats (below). Notability is an easily-judged criteria for protocol/format support: is there a WP article on the format or is it reasonable that one might be written. --Karnesky 22:01, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
I agree that the "proprietary format" column isn't very useful; I think the "existence of Wikipedia article" standard for formats is quite reasonable, but I'm not sure that all such formats are included here, especially considering that support for many formats is provided by external codecs. Perhaps it would be better to list codecs supported natively and whether a given player's capabilities can be expanded through external codecs. I don't really have the time/interest combination to make that happen, though.
The footnotes don't appear to actually contain speculation, but the sentence "Footnotes lead to information about support in future versions of the players or plugins that provide such functionality." appears repeatedly in the article. —donhalcon╤ 22:25, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Removed out of date external link

I removed the external link which was both very limited and several years out of date, to the point of being unquestionably useless. (It was comparison of Quicktime 4 to RealPlayer 8 to WMP 7, and it ignored everything else everything else.)

difference of support between OS and distributions

VLC has some differences between the OS xine can be compiled with and without w32codecs(avaliable only for x86) =>we must add a lot of notes explaining the differences betweeen the OS for the particular format where it difers

Winamp supporting VobSub

The article states that Winamp is uncompatible with VobSub. This is incorrect. I use VobSub with Winamp; it works for me.

video capture?

how about comparisons of media players that support playing from capture devices such as webcams and tv-cards? 60.51.123.251 07:00, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Players for Mac os 9

There should be noted if there are any players that work with mac os 9. helohe (talk) 15:13, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

New ref syntax

Hi, I rehauled the article to use the <ref> syntax. You can see how I did it at User:Kjoonlee/comp.

I'd be happy if people could check the current version of the article to spot errors, if any. Thank you. --Kjoonlee 11:58, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

I didn't spot any errors per say, but the ref for plugin available at time of installation seems to be used for the general "plugin available" in numerous places. I suggest changing this ref to be more generic. Winamp suffers from this isue extensibly since most functionality in these tables can be aquired just from searching winamp.com's plugin repository. Obviously stating that you can do this at install time is somewhat subjective. Otherwise a clean improvement to making edits. CraigF 11:58, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Video/Audio Processing features

i'm curious about features on linux in regards to scaling. i know MPC can do Bicubic resizing (as well as like BiLinear and Fast BiCubic/Linear) thru DirectX on newer video cards. also FFDShow can do Lanczos *-tap (1-9 or more) as well. that's something i'm looking for in a linux media player, too... Plonk420 21:15, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

library support?

I know winamp and musicmatch jukebox have a library function built in. Does Foobar2000? Zinf? Quintessential? Etc.?

Latest Release Date

I think that the main table should include the latest release date, so people will know if the player is still being developed/maintained.

-- Yes, I second this suggestion. Excellent effort in doing this article, but a date indicating when this comparisson was updated would be helpful. I will ask on GOM Player's board about ID3 tags, I don't think they are not supported.

What about tracker music support?

I think there should be list of supported tracker music.. --84.19.184.156 16:43, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah. Suggestion to do so. 85.25.148.242 22:36, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Rhythmbox, Amarok, Totem WMA support

Rhythmbox and Totem both support wma, etc. with win32codecs and the pitfdll gstreamer plugin, just like everything else.

Quod Libet

And what about the new music player, Quod Libet? oKtosiTe