Talk:Communication during the September 11, 2001 attacks

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[edit] WPIX frozen image

I tirelessly spent hours hunting down a screencap of the frozen WPIX image as described in the article. Unfortunately, I have no clue about the copyright status of such an image and I am inexperienced in such matters. I'm hoping a more experienced user will see this post and can help out in this area. I hope it is possible to keep this image since it was so hard to track it down in the first place. Thanks. - XDB 22:44, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

I agree that this image is important to this article and that there is an argument to be made for "fair use." As the uploader, you should make the changes to the Wikipedia:Image description page, in this case Image:Wpix-911.jpg. I think you should mention that this is a low resolution screen shot of an event of unique historical import that cannot be recreated in any other way. I would suggest the {{film-screenshot}} tag as the most appropriate tag for this image. --agr 00:47, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks. I went ahead and changed the license as you suggested since I am in agreement with you 100%. Unless of course, there are any that wish to challenge the image's fair use. - XDB 17:25, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

A belated kudo to XDB for tracking down the image. I was watching the broadcasts here in Calgary back in 2001 and that frozen image from WPIX remains one of my more vivid memories of the day. 23skidoo 04:23, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

I believe it is the ONLY known such image of the picturee that exists. I have to thank my dad , who ran home to record MSNBC, but briefly switching over to WPIX for a short amount of time, thus grabbing this on videotape. I brought it to my job, and used our graphics machine to grab the grabbed image. I built a [Tribute Page] to the engineers who were working on the 104th and 110th floor of the north tower as this happened, and used the image. Through connections I was able to obtain an emailed OK to keep the image up as long as it remained part of the tribute. I think it serves a purpose for those of us to remember those guys who were trapped while doing the job they loved. Mike Fitzpatrick, NECRAT webmaster, source of the original image

[edit] In-Flight cell phone use

Try it sometime.

I heard that it doesen't work unless the palne and phone have some sort of system. Dudtz 7/29/06 5:06 PM EST

Ive used my cell phone while on an airplane before, the only real danger is being caught by a flight attendant.


--- Cell phones do not work reliably over 10000 feet due to the cell phone antenna beam-tilting which the transmission towers signals are aimed towards the earth and not the sky. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.9.118.226 (talk) 04:45, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Wpix-911.jpg

Image:Wpix-911.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot (talk) 11:27, 21 January 2008 (UTC)


I added a fair use rationale for this article to the image page.--agr (talk) 13:21, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
The Fair Use Disputed tag should have been removed as well, so I have done so. It's a good thing you fixed this as user who uploaded the original image was also notified by the bot, but hasn't made by edits since 2005. 23skidoo (talk) 20:15, 4 February 2008 (UTC)