Talk:Common People

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Contents 1 Use of Championed 2 Real incident 3 Emphasising importance 4 Lost In the Supermarket? 5 Fair use rationale for Image:Pulp - common people.jpg

[edit] Use of Championed

I am not sure that the use of Championed in the Sentence : "Cocker's simple four-bar synthesizer line was championed by keyboardist Candida Doyle, and the final single was mixed down from over 40 tracks." is proper. If one of the grammar gurus could look at this and make a final judgment, I would be appreciative. Mister B. 02:00, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Because I wrote that sentence, here is what I was trying to summarise from recollection of the BBC3 programme. Cocker wrote the distinctive ten-note backing melody for the verses at home, most of the rest of the band thought it was naff and Cocker himself was unsure. Doyle saw its potential, demonstrated that potential while much of the rest of the song was apparently written around it, and also performed it on the recording. Chambers defines "champion" as a noun firstly as "someone who defends a cause", and as a verb as "to challenge (obs); to defend; to support". The cause defended here also won out, which, I suppose, is why the word came to mind. --Cedders^tk 14:19, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay, Cedders that seems fine, I wonder if we could word it in a more laymen way. Although, it may just be my vocabulary lacking. Mister B. 03:23, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Real incident

The article contains this line: "However, Cocker admittedly embellished the incident with the Greek student who declares she 'want[s] to live like common people' — she most definitely never wanted to sleep with him!" Um... source? Is this taken from an interview? --LostLeviathan 01:01, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

The BBC3 documentary now referenced interviews primary sources, and the statement was from Cocker's testimony as at 2005. I've added other material from my recollection of the broadcast a few weeks ago that I'm reasonably certain of. --Cedders 10:40, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Emphasising importance

I'm not quite sure how to stress the cultural significance of the song (It was kept from number 1 by Robson & Jerome!) without appearing POV. My contemporaries (slightly younger than members of Pulp) and other critics tend to disagree about the second best song on Different Class, but Common People is the one song from the 1990s (along with perhaps Parklife (song) and Killer (song)) that we'll all remember when our hair and teeth have fallen out. --Cedders 10:40, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lost In the Supermarket?

I think that the verse "I took her to the supermarket/Don't know why, but I had to start it somewhere..." is a pretty obvious tribute to the Clash song "Lost In The Supermarket", with music resembling as well. Yet, there's no source for the statement, so, if anyone wishes to investigate...--Vitriden 11:58, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Pulp - common people.jpg

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