Talk:Common Ground Collective

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[edit] Citation needed

A citation is needed for the Nightline quote about 2000 volunteers, mostly white, untainted by cynicism etc. It's a nice quote, but I couldn't find it via Google News or on the Nightline Web site. — Muffuletta 22:07, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

I saw the interview on the NightLine website. However, it's impossible to find the article on the website. Is there a reason that quote is needed? The volunteer count goes up and down, and the mix of volunteers changes along with it. My last time there we had 100+ kids from Howard University for Spring Break. Tall Girl 08:47, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Not really. Somebody put the quote in there, so I thought I'd find a citation for it, but it doesn't matter. Actually, Common Ground has done so much stuff, the article could be way expanded irrespective of any quotes from the national news media. -- Muffuletta 00:47, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
So, how does this sound -- we leave the quote in, remove the tag saying the citation is needed, say the quote is unverified and that the volunteer population and demographics rise and fall over time? Oh, and we hook up for lunch next weekend and split half a Muff? Tall Girl 04:25, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. I removed the {{fact}} tag, and if I have time today or tomorrow I'll add some more text to the article. But wait... split half a muffuletta? That could get ugly. I've never split a half. I'd be saying, hey, is that all I get? But we can sort all that out when I get back home from my temporary exile. -- Muffuletta 15:29, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Muffuletta, sorry I missed you during my last trip. I stayed at Pauline, then went into the Quarter to find breakfast, only to have my car break down. But that's not why I'm actually writing -- I have what I think is a really nice photo of the Blue House in the Lower 9th that I think would make a nice anchor for a discussion about what's going on in the Lower 9th. Perhaps we could start a section on that and I'll clean up the photo and contribute it. Tall Girl 06:37, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Several photos of the Common Grounds station in the Lower 9th are in Commons:Category:Hurricane Katrina aftermath in the Lower 9th Ward, New Orleans.(I also have a photo of the "blue house" before it became the Common Ground station.) I made a start at a "Category:Common Ground Collective" category and added to the article. Adding more photos to our archive at Wikimedia Commons would be great. --Infrogmation 10:21, 15 May 2006 (UTC) P.S.: Drop me a note should y'all want to do a New Orleans Wikipedians IRL meet.

So ... what the heck is "housing remediation" and who's the source for us having done more in the Lower 9 than the Upper 9? The Lower 9 rocks and all that, but my experience is we've been in the Upper 9 a LOT more. I'm not going add a {{fact}} tag, but I'd like to see that claim sourced. Tall Girl 03:10, 30 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Criticism

Hi folks. I added a very short section detailing some of the common criticisms of Common Ground, as taken from the message board. I would greatly appreciate help expanding it with rebuttals and/or anything to make it more complete and neutral. Also, i was unsure of how to source the forum, so if someone could help me out there, as well, that'd be cool. SReynhout 23:04, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

I'd be leery of trying to "source" the forum because most of the statements there are unverifiable. I think that CGC is being held to an unrealistically high level of expectations in part because it's a group that is trying to "do good". This isn't to say that criticism is a bad thing, but I think it needs to be kept in perspective. Tall Girl 04:51, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure that forums are considered unreliable sources, and should not be used at all. Wikipedia:Verifiability#Self-published_sources_.28online_and_paper.29 Murderbike 21:20, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Someone should really change the "Philosophy away from Anarchism. If anyone has ever seen what they do it is the farthest thing from Anarchism. Sure they perform some extra-legal moves around the government, but they do it to help people and in turn the government never follows up or arrests anyone. It should be clear that they have a very specific "Grass-Roots" kind of love for doing good and helping people. David (email crobaropen@yahoo.com) --70.56.70.139 (talk) 20:40, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Timeline

I think a Timeline showing significant events would be an excellent addition to the article Cloroxcowboy (talk) 16:51, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thomas Pepper - Common Ground Relief Operations Director Sources

[edit] Common Ground Relief

KYNO Radio [1]

NY Times[2]

Times-Picayune [3]

[edit] Gus Boulis Murder Investigation

Miami Channel 10 news [4]

South Florida Sun-Sentinel [5]

South Florida Sun-Sentinel [6] Cloroxcowboy (talk) 22:17, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Running Out of Time

The people involved in this organization are drifting away from the city and it'll soon be very difficult if not impossible to figure out their story with any accuracy. Common Ground had a significant impact on the city in the immediate aftermath of Katrina and time will only make that story harder to tell. Leodmacleod ?, 14 May 2008 (Came back and signed several hours after the fact)