Talk:Combat Hapkido
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[edit] Clean Up
I edited the article a bit. The original text is largely in tact, but I did some cleaning and retooling. Hopefully, it flows a bit better now. Let me know if you disagree. Mrmb6b02 21:26, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Ouch. Someone did not like my work and revised the article further. Now it sounds like an ad and lacks structure. Thats too bad. It was a good entry. Mrmb6b02 01:53, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
"Combat Hapkido is the result of over 3 decades of study, research and development. This system is now taught in hundreds of Martial Art Schools,[citation needed] Police Departments,[citation needed] Military Bases[citation needed] and over 15 foreign Countries.[citation needed]" This is the only part of the article that appears "preachy". The rest appears unbiased, but perhaps to someone ignorant of martial arts, it does seem like an ad.
I think the article needs another overhaul, no offense intended. The style is rather new, so there won't be many sources to cite, so it's best just to keep the article simple: Combat Hapkido is a style that was created in 1990 by Grand Master blahblah, it focuses on self-defense and utilizes a wide breadth of moves from several styles (listing the styles and, perhaps some of the techniques taken from them). It is officially recognized as a modern branching of Hapkido and is used sometimes in military and police training. Anubite01 02:31, 23 October 2007
One user wrote:
The rest appears unbiased, but perhaps to someone ignorant of martial arts, it does seem like an ad.
This sounds like a personal attack on me, and I will remind the author of the comment that a personal attack is grounds for a ban from wikipedia. Also, I cannot tell if that comment is seperate from, or a part of, Anubite's comment. If it is not a part of it, then I will also remind the author that he/she must end his/her entries with four tildes to sign them. If you do not sign them, that does not mean we cannot see who you are, as your IP is freely available to anyone who wants it. I will also inform the author that this wikipedian is a practitioner of martial arts and certainly not ignorant. Now, all this said, remember that wikipedia is a dynamic entity and it changes every day. When I left the comment suggesting that the article sounded like an ad, it did. Revisions have been made since then, probably in an effort to shake this. I still think it lacks structure and is poorly written, but that is beside my present point. Mrmb6b02 14:29, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
This sounds like a personal attack on me, and I will remind the author of the comment that a personal attack is grounds for a ban from wikipedia.
No, it is apart of my post, sorry for the confusion. No, I was not personally attacking you. I am a noob to wikipedia, so I assumed that articles were flagged by the admins (who couldn't posibly know everything about the articles they flag). My comment was generalized. But even so... that comment could be considered for ban? I'm amazed wikipedia has any people to write their articles! People talk like that on the internet all the time... but anyway; no, my comment was not intended to insult you. I apologize for my ignorance; I suppose I'll have to steer from commenting here, since I clealy have no idea what I'm doing. Anubite01 01:31, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
No, no. Feel free to comment. I was unaware that you are new to this (I'm still learning myself). Anyway, I think the article actually was flagged by wikipedia admins. I suppose I should have taken that into consideration when replying to your post on here. I'm also sorry for the confusion on my part. No hard feelings, I hope. Mrmb6b02 (talk) 07:25, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Controversy
Somebody completely erased the 'controversy'-part of the article. This article is not here to either promote or defame Combat Hapkido. It is a given fact that there is some controversy in the hapkido community, wether you like it or not, so the article just states that there is controversy. It doesn't give any value (either in a negative or positive) way to the critics. When you want to delete large parts of an article, first take it to this place, where we can discus. Kbarends 12:53, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
I agree. I practice this art myself and I didn't find the controversy portion offensive or off-putting at all. Mrmb6b02 14:43, 23 September 2007 (UTC)