User talk:Coldwavekid
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I noticed you wrote this on your forum:
However, when deleted I would like a group to help me out removing systematically nearly every wrestling page from wiki, by following precedent rules, and notability rules. Many Keller's page, PW Torch page, and all the small sub pages. They do not want wrestling there fine, lets remove all the info we can then. Should only take an hour to cause alot of fun, using there own "smarks" to destroy their own site.
You wouldn't be the first, nor the last, to attempt something like that. However, before you consider going through with it, I would like to direct you toward WP:POINT. If you attempt to disrupt Wikipedia in this manner, you'll just end up getting yourself blocked and all your contributions rolled back. Furthermore, it'll take less than a minute to do it. You're a moderator on your forum, so I assume that you would react exactly the same way if a bunch of people systematically disrupted things there. Just something to keep in mind. Sit back, take a deep breath, and don't take things here personally. In the big picture, being listed in Wikipedia really doesn't matter that much and it certainly doesn't indicate the value of your site. Your site is just as cool and popular irregardless of it being listed in Wikipedia, right? -- ShinmaWa(talk) 22:23, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
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- If you are planning to work in good faith to improve Wikipedia by removing cruft and spam, then I wish you the best of luck in your efforts. However, claiming that you are going to "cause a lot of fun" removing "all the info (you) can" to "destroy their own site" does not give that impression AT ALL. However, I'll assume for the moment that you are serious in that you have nothing but the good of Wikipedia in mind. As a token of that good faith assumption, I'll give you a bit of advice on how to proceed from here. Odds are that the article prowrestling.com is doomed. Consensus among established editors is pretty solid. However, I think that when the article is deleted, you have a valid case to take to deletion review. When the article was originally sent to AFD, it was about the forums about which there is even consensus on your own site that they are not notable. The article is now completely different since its been moved and rewritten. I believe that it deserves a second shot at AFD because of that. Do note that DRV is not a debate about the article or its subject; it's a debate about the article's deletion. Present your case on why it deserves another chance -- that reason being that the AFD was for a different article than what was deleted. Do it calmly and rationally. The antics of the people at your forum creating single-use accounts and using them to vandalize user pages, talk pages, and the AFD page itself as well as being generally uncivil really hurt your case this time around and that comment you posted on your forums inciting people to disrupt Wikipedia in retaliation definately didn't help one bit. -- ShinmaWa(talk) 23:27, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
