Talk:Colt M1861 Navy

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Contents 1 Citation Needed 2 Weight Difference 3 Saturday Night Special Link 4 Few Were Cut For Shoulder Stock

[edit] Citation Needed

The statement that the 1861 Navy revolver was preferred by Cavalry because of lighter recoil is likely inaccurate. The great debate amongst cavalry officers and men was about the weight of this revolver in contrast to the weight of the larger Army model, not the recoil. Roundeyesamurai 11:10, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Weight Difference

I'm pretty sure that the issue is recoil, especially since Colt Army Model 1860 lists the weight of the army as only 1 ounce greater. In a couple of days I'll be able to double check it in a CW Handgun reference work to be sure and add a citation. SU Linguist 01:08, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

One ounce, unloaded. Add in the difference in weight in the ammunition, spare cylinders, holsters, etc., and it adds up. Roundeyesamurai 20:49, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Saturday Night Special Link

I am removing the link on this page to Saturday Night Specials, since guns of that type are typically of inferior quality metals and poor manufacturing standards, neither of which characterizes the M1861 Navy Revolver. Having the link on this page gives the reader the impression that the M1861 is a firearm of that type.

You should read the SNS linked article. The link to Saturday night specials is there because of the attempts to ban handguns other than Army and Navy models for freed slaves. The M1861 Navy was specifically not a Saturday night special, hence the reason for it being mandated by legislative attempts in the 1870's just after the Civil War. The SNS article details this history to ban inexpensive handguns more clearly. Yaf 19:30, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Few Were Cut For Shoulder Stock

Your statement, "Also like the Army revolver, the frame was lugged for a detachable shoulder stock, but very few came with one" is not accurate. Very few 1861s were cut for a shoulder stock. This fact is readily verifiable on the Web. It is also apparent by observing the surviving originals. The Italian reproductions have "cut" frames, but these are not representative of the majority of originals. Also, your photo is of a Pietta, which has, for some odd reason, an 8" barrel. The Uberti has the correct 7.5" barrel length. Whitethronebooks (talk) 02:04, 20 December 2007 (UTC)