Talk:Colonization of Antarctica
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[edit] Information sources
- This page is completely unsourced. It may well be un-encyclopedic. Is it someones pet idea? If not, please source it... William M. Connolley 16:23, 1 November 2005 (UTC).
- Whoever knows sources for this information should provide details. Verifiability is important. (SEWilco 19:12, 1 November 2005 (UTC))
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- Agreed. Unless some sources are added, this article should be AfD'd or at least redirected to the main Antarctica article.--FRS 23:45, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Population
Is it true the population in Antarctica is currently 1000 scientists each year? CarDepot 20:38, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
- See the infobox on the right side of Antarctica article. (SEWilco 20:58, 1 November 2005 (UTC))
[edit] Sources
This article still appears to be poorly sourced, and potentially therefore could be considered as original research. Expansion of the single tentative reference might be useful (depending on the reliability of the reference - note that a single reference is not sufficient to warrant an article). See how to format references. As stated above, maybe this needs to be tested at AfD. -- MightyWarrior 20:42, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
- The source appears to be Aant Elzinga, "Antarctica: The Construction of a Continent by and For Science," in Elisabeth Crawford, Terry Shinn, and Sverker Sörlin, eds., Denationalizing Science: The Contexts of International Scientific Practice (Dordrecht: Kluwer, 1993): 73-106. See here.--Pharos 03:12, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Student-designed domed city
Isn't it odd that this student-designed domed city from 1977 is also supposed to have a population of 40,000, the same as Frei Otto? The student design I imagine is of borderline notability only, but I thought the other editors of this article would want to be aware of it.--Pharos 09:11, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Scope
As this article expands further, the proper scope of the "colonization" topic will become an issue. I propose we use "land-based permanent settlement and economic activity", excluding (1) scientific research and (2) tourism. Is this a good definition for this context?--Pharos 21:32, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Why should those two be excluded? They're human activity like any other. If there are to be any qualifiers for what counts for "colonization" and what does not, IMO "permanence" is the only real criterion. If Antarctica ends up having cities of 100,000 people, 100% based on tourism, then I'd still call it "colonized". Same with scientific research. It doesn't matter what people are there for. Just whether they are there or not. Also, why is "land-based" necessary? If we build underwater or floating habitats all along the coastlines, but along the continental shelf, why shouldn't that count? Thus, I propose we use "permanent settlement and economic activity", with no exclusions. Samy Merchi (Talk) 22:41, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Permanent human presence
Currently the article reads:
Colonization of Antarctica refers to having a permanent human presence in the continent of Antarctica. Currently only some scientists live there temporarily. Antarctica is currently the only continent on Earth without a permanent human presence.
Perhaps this needs to be clarified. After all, Antarctica has had a permanent human presence for decades. At all times of the year there are at least 1000 people there. Ordinary Person (talk) 08:15, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Yes, and haven't Argentina and/or Chile had births, kindergardens etc there? Hugo999 (talk) 00:26, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
