Talk:Colonization (video game)

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My Version 2.25 celebrates its 10th birthday on 15 September. And I've still never reached 1800! Too much time testing and theorising.... Robin Patterson 20:12, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)

The first two paragraphs appear to be a cut & paste job from here. However, the text in question was written by someone named "David Gust", and the article edit was done by a Dgust (this is the user's only contribution to WP). Copyright issue? Caknuck 08:30, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Disagree with this

"Both games pit the player as a godlike leader of an embattled civilization" - I don't believe this is accurate for Colonization. Instead, you're quite specifically *not* a god (you answer to your soverign), you're not the leader of a whole civilisation (just the colony), and in any case your civilisation is definitely not "embattled" - you're out there to rape and pillage, and you do a lot of it. Stevage 14:31, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree. Bad description -- Zagrebo 19:28, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
That particular paragraph mostly talks about Civilization anyway and has no actual bearing on this article. It should be removed or totally rewritten. MacMoney 14:18, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
I removed it. Muad 13:27, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Scoring

I've always been bummed out with my score after playing a game. I build 3-5 huge colonies, declare independence on Governor mode first and make a ton of money yet I only end up with a score of 40%. It says the "high" score is 145% Anyone have an idea how the scoring works?

I think you get a lot of points for number of people. - Keith D. Tyler (AMA) 17:51, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Disagree with this statement.

I've happen to read this and this statement caught my attention.

Under the criticism paragraph, point number 4, the author of this statement states this," The only way to delete a colony once a stockade is built is to starve the inhabitants".

I would like to notify that this statement is untrue, one can delete a colony by simply moving all colonist outside the colony. A confirmation message will then be displayed and then you are done with deleting a colony.

I'm not sure whether there is this misunderstanding because there may be different versions of the game but I would like to address than the current colonization I play has this option.

Twejoel 16:21, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Then you either didn't read the sentence fully or haven't played the game enough.

You can't physically remove all colonists from a colony with stockade. You can only remove a colonist from such a colony if at least three are left behind.

If you could dismantle the stockade (which would make historic sense -- wasn't the Mayflower dismantled to reuse its wood, after all?), that would be very nice.

If the colony doesn't have a stockade, what you say is entirely true. Therein lies the strategic dilemma of a stockade, and particularly of La Salle. - Keith D. Tyler (AMA) 20:19, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

--Yes I concur, this was always an annoying feature. Scskowron 21:24, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] French default name

My version (unsure at the moment, will check) has Jacques Cartier as the default French name, not Samuel de Champlain. Before anything is altered in the article, is this a regional (I'm Australian) or version-related change, or something else entirely. --Crx2gen 06:18, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Funny, my recollection was Cartier too, but someone edited it. Unfortunately I don't have a box that will play Col anymore. - Keith D. Tyler (AMA) 21:18, 29 March 2007 (UTC)


--UK version here and it is definately Jacques Cartier, Samuel de Champlain appears no where in my game.

[edit] Progressive Tax

> The game makes out that the colonies are being slowly taxed out of existence. In reality, the American colonists were taxed far less than those back in England. After the French and Indian War the British government introduced some new taxes, which were still low by English standards but new (and therefore objectionable) to the colonists.

This isn't accurate. If you read the fourth article of Thomas Jefferon's "A Summary View of the Rights of British America", 5th Paragraph as found here -> http://libertyonline.hypermall.com/Jefferson/Summaryview.html, this seems to be a very accurate representation. Altough taxes on the American citizens may have been marginal compared to their English counterparts, obvious and hidden (via regulation that required America to sell at reduced prices or buy at inflated prices) taxes on exports were substantial and progressive.

[edit] Special Units

Jesuit missionaries are listed as one of the special units. Technically, the unit is the Missionary, jesuit is the name for the improved version (ala vet. soldiers, firebrand preachers, elder statesmen etc.) 201.235.92.186 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.235.92.186 (talk) 03:26, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] External links

This new "jColonization" seems to be nothing but a very poor website at the moment. Does this warrant an external link? Burschik 10:17, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot 19:22, 29 October 2007 (UTC)