Talk:Colonel Bogey March
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An infobox was requested for the 1958 recording by Mitch Miller and His Orchestra and Chorus at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Missing_encyclopedic_articles/List_of_notable_songs/9.
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[edit] The Malcolm Arnold addition
I'm not clear as to Malcolm Arnold's addition that was composed for the film. Guess I would have to hear it played - don't know any way anyone could add it to the article, unless a midi of it is linked somewhere.
The River Kwai March
The page for "Bridge Over the River Kwai" says the River Kwai March is another name for Colonel Bogey. But I seem to remember hearing a genuinely new River Kwai March (actually it is Colonel Bogey, but with a new counter-melody added). Is my memory playing tricks, ro was it rewritten?
Cheers, Wol
Just heard it played on Radio Two last night. The River Kwai March is indeed a new composition, the counter melody is by Sir Malcolm Sargent.
Cheers, Wol
I don't suppose this would ever go into the wikipedia, but preserved here for temporary posterity, until the great slaughter of the talk pages in 2018, one set of World War II lyrics to Colonel Bogey, bold and commas for simulating rhythm:
- Hitler has only one left ball,
- Goebbels has two but they're quite small
- Himmler has something sim'lar,
- And Mussolini hasn't any, at all!
Should we ever ammass a treasury of all the variants, here's the page that's currently a redirect to here: Hitler has only got one ball. In the meantime, IMO, it's better all on one article, since I think most readers will read both. -- Tarquin 22:30 Oct 14, 2002 (UTC)
- Okay, Tarquin, should the lyrics be here or on the "ammass" page. Don't see any point in both, but if this is offensive, why not pull the skimpy seventh veil of discretion over them and post them on the "one ball" page? Ortolan88 17:17 Nov 4, 2002 (UTC)
I'd say put them all here, unless we start to have dozens of them and it turns into YetAnotherRepositoryOfStuff page (qv collective nouns, etc) -- Tarquin 17:27 Nov 4, 2002 (UTC)
- I'd day put one here and tuck the rest away. That will encourage contribution of even more vulgar versions and yet respect the sensibilities of the readers. Ortolan88 23:10 Nov 4, 2002 (UTC)
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- Yeah, okay. -- Tarquin 23:45 Nov 4, 2002 (UTC) (looking forward to these more vulgar versions!)
I disagree with moving the "Hitler has only one ball" here. I thought having it on a seperate page with a link to it was a much better solution.
The Colonel Bogey March is a nice piece of music, and the original composer and publication had nothing to do with Hitlerian monorchicism. That subject now takes up some 3/4 of the article. What next, a long discussion of ducks on the John Phillip Sousa page, because some people sing "Be Kind to your Web-Footed Friends" to the tune of one of his marches? -- Infrogmation 16:24 Nov 11, 2002 (UTC)
- I agree. I think, salty talker though I am and strong proponent of having these lyrics in the Wikipedia, that it is generally much better to put potentially offensive material on a separate link so people can decide if they want to see it. No censorship, just consideration for the reader. Ortolan88
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- You're right. Let's put all the lyrics on the other page and make a mention of the piece of music being used as a war song here: it makes more sense. -- Tarquin
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- How about Colonel Bogey March (alternate lyrics)? Same for "...a duck may be somebody's mother" --Ed Poor
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- Ed, I think you misunderstand. The lyrics are at Hitler has only got one ball; Infrog's point is that they are a separate entity from the march which is an instrumental piece of music. -- Tarquin
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- Actually, I think Ed has a point. When I was a kid, the only lyrics I knew to that song were, "Comet, it tastes like listerine. Comet, it makes your teeth turn green. Comet, it makes you vomit. So get some Comet, and vomit, today". Then again, the "Comet" version is an example of a certain category of children's variants of certain songs. Another example I can think of is "Glory, glory hallelujah, teacher hit me with a ruler", sung to the tune of "Battle Hymn of the Republic". So maybe we need an article on children's variants to popular song lyrics. soulpatch
- That would be cool. You could add the trademark paranoids to the copyright paranoids. Ortolan88
- Actually, I think Ed has a point. When I was a kid, the only lyrics I knew to that song were, "Comet, it tastes like listerine. Comet, it makes your teeth turn green. Comet, it makes you vomit. So get some Comet, and vomit, today". Then again, the "Comet" version is an example of a certain category of children's variants of certain songs. Another example I can think of is "Glory, glory hallelujah, teacher hit me with a ruler", sung to the tune of "Battle Hymn of the Republic". So maybe we need an article on children's variants to popular song lyrics. soulpatch
- Well, I think the "Hitler" part of the link is valuable information. I would also think that "web-footed friends" should be mentioned in the other case. Ortolan88
All I care about is where the one-ball lyrics go:
- (A) Colonel Bogey March
- (B) Hitler has only got one ball
- (C) both places
I'd rather not have the duplication of (C), if you don't mind. --Ed Poor
- I've returned it to (B), with (A) having a link to (B). I think that's the most sensible solution, since they are really two seperate (though related) topics. -- Infrogmation 21:40 Nov 14, 2002 (UTC)
[edit] Colonel Bogey March MIDI
I uploaded this file to my own website as Fortunecity don't like hotlinking, and redirected the original link to a .jpeg Peter1968 09:04, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] The Parent Trap
I'm pretty sure the song whistled by the kids in The Parent Trap was actually the theme to The Great Escape.
[edit] US Navy
Re-up, and get your VRB; Re-up, and drive an XKE; Re-up, I'd rather throwup; Than be a lifer, forever a puke.
circa 1972 FWIW, LorenzoB 19:20, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Beyond the Fringe (Dudley Moore) version
- Can I take it that the use of "playbill" indicates a US point of view here? I've seen / own several UK programmes from various points in BTF's 60s run and they all list it as "And The Same To You", under which title it also appears on the "Complete Beyond The Fringe" CD, and indeed the piano score in the "Complete Beyond The Fringe" script book (published some years before the CD) also bears that title. Never heard of it being called "The Kwai Sonata" in anything related to the London run, so I'm guessing that title was US-only. -88.110.219.32 (talk) 10:06, 15 April 2008 (UTC)