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I've just removed a couple of passages of text, one about Power Without Glory which had everything to do with the City of Collingwood but nothing to do with the CFC, and another about Nathan Buckley, which is good but belongs on a page relating to that player.--The Brain of Morbius 15:12, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

I am attempting to clean up this article. People have donated alot of time, effort and knowledge to the content within this article but it reads as though someone is speaking face to face and this is not the best way to present information clearly in an encyclopedia. I have made minor edits to headings and subsections but a cleanup I did of the 'Rivalries' section was reverted instantly. Why? It should be presented more linearly, listing rivalries and a description of each (as in the Essendon article under the 'major' and 'minor' rivalries sections).

I think either a major cull of information in the History section OR the creation of a dedicated 'History of Collingwood Football Club' article must take place. I'm for the creation of a seperate article as we already have the information here, so I'll go ahead and do it, if anyone has any disputes please discuss them here. I'll continue to clean up a few things but if anyone reverts edits without discussing why they wish to revert them I won't bother helping. C'mon Collingwood supporters! Even the Footscray article is better than this! Nick carson (talk) 14:29, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rivalries

I don't know about the intense rivalry between Collingwood and Carlton as mentioned in the opening paragraph. This article seems to indicate that there is no rivalry anymore .. http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/rival-without-a-cause/2007/04/13/1175971352521.html --Rulesfan 00:12, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

He is the fool who uses the mass media as a source for accurate, unbiased information.Nick carson (talk) 14:29, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image Size

Whoever the person is that keeps changing the size of the Collingwood logo, stop it!. Leave it as "150px" because that's the right size for the logo. "250px" is too large, so stop it please.

Actually the agreed apon size is 250px. 150px is too small 300px too large, so 250px is the right size. And please sign your name when making a comment. --203.94.135.134 22:46, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Who agreed on this?? That's just rubbish - 250px is too large!!! - takes too much space - have a look at the other sport logos like manchester united, south sydney rabbitohs, melbourne storm, melbourne victory, etc. 150px is the perfect size for a sports logo. Just leave it mate!!!. Once again, takes too much space!!! Steves101 23:49, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, the amount of time that the logo sizes have been at 250px and other users who have reverted size changes back to 250px. The size of 250px is a perfect size, 150px to 200px is too small to be seen on the screen. As for those other club logos I feel that their sizes are too small to see, but this is about AFL logos not of other codes. And please, could you remain civil in your comments. --203.94.135.134 00:26, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

That article is not the most reliable source to quote from. Any others? Tarkyn 24 22:55, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Collingwood80s.png

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[edit] Season 2001

Why does the article go into so much depth for the season 2001? Will it be expanded so that every year of the new millenium is written in such a way? Tarkyn 24 23:03, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question about source for membership data

Could you provide the source for the membership data? This is also relevant for all AFL clubs.

[edit] History section needs a complete rewrite

Just had a scan of the 2006 section - very unencylopedic. Needs a complete rewrite IMHO. The-Pope 16:54, 16 July 2007 (UTC)..........

[edit] the 1990s onwards

horrendously overwritten & far, far too detailed. needs deletion & a complete rewrite.

Dekooning 10:53, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Port Adelaide is irrelevant to Collingwood

I can't see what this paragraph..."Collingwood was not the only professional Australian football club nicknamed the Magpies. In 1997, the SANFL's Port Adelaide Football Club entered the AFL. The Port Adelaide Magpies had to change their name to the "Power" and they also abandoned their previous black and white colour scheme. However, the Power continues to sponsor a SANFL team, under the traditional name of the Port Adelaide Magpies." ...is relevant at all. If there's no good argument to keep it, I'm going to remove it. Dgen 00:57, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Collingwood-2007-Clash.gif

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Collingwood-2007.gif

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[edit] Why were the pictures of the jumpers removed?

Ok the pictures of the jumpers were removed due to wikinazibots. Can whoever put them up there put them back up with full and proper explanation as to why it is fair and proper use. FFS it's just a picture (not a photograph) of a jumper. Jabso 13:51, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 1990 Grand Final

I've edited the actual page for the 1990 Grand Final, but I'm not sure whether the actual scoreboard is neccessary in the main club page, for it is only one of 14. I'll paste it in here, incase it is felt it should remain. User:Johnson26

1990 AFL Grand Final	G	B	Total
20px Collingwood	13	11	89
20px Essendon	5	11	41
Venue: Melbourne Cricket Ground	Crowd: 98,944

[edit] "The Catholic Club"

I have removed this entire section (see here) as unsourced and not from a neutral point of view. It also seems to me to motivated by religous bigotry, although I would be pleased to be wrong about that. Please provide a reliable source and write in a neutral tone if you wish to include a section such as this. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 10:04, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Adelaide Rivalry"

Excuse my ignorance, but when has Adelaide ever been a major rival of Collingwood? We might be their rivals, but they aren't really ours, as I guess I speak for most of the Magpies supporters on this. As such, the Adelaide Crows section has been removed. User:Johnson26 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnson 26 (talk • contribs) 13:48, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Major Cleanup + Note to anyone who wants to add somethign to the article

Ok I'm currently working on a major clean up of this article. I'll try to model it on the Manchester United wiki article and other major soccer clubs especially Manchester City (which has been featured on the front page) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_City.

Things needed to work on. - Basically making it a bit more concise. - Perhaps making a seperate history article and summarising history? - fixing up contents system (it's totally unstructured)

If you are going to add a seperate section to this article please try to make sure it fits in with the contents. I.e. don't make a section about notable players and make it a subsection of "The 2000s".

Jabso (talk) 13:58, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:2006 AFL Collingwood.jpg

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[edit] Coupla Questions

Shouldn't there be in-text references for the bulk of the page - ie pretty much everything from 'Early Years' to '2000s' in which there are some fairly contentious statements??

And what does the contributor mean? "the rare success of never losing more than one match at a time" lol How can anyone lose two matches at a time? Does he mean not losing more than one consecutive match?

I'd change it myself but not being a Magpies fan, I have no idea what he's trying to say..

And - boy - is this a fantastic piece of purple prose or what???

The team, under the guidance of Shaw for the final time, produced some bright sparks in amongst the smouldering ashes of the 1990s, sparks which morphed over time into phoenixes providing hope of a bright future

Vault-emort (talk) 06:27, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

The article does need a big fix up with the history bit. As a Collingwood supporter 90% of it can be referenced to a book I have and the Collingwood website. There is a lot of stupid statements like that around that do need to be fixed up. When I have free time one day I might do a complete rewrite with proper references.

I assume that "losing two matches a time" losing two in a row where which I think we didn't do in 2007 (or 2006). I'm not sure if it is such a rare thing but it's worth noting when talking about a solid season I suppose.

Jabso (talk) 08:48, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

collingwood r gay lol —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.10.76.15 (talk) 06:57, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 2007 Finishing place

I've noticed that this article shows Collingwood as finishing 4th in 2007, and the Kangaroos' article has them as 3rd.

According to the below article, these positions should be reversed as Collingwood had a better percentage in the finals series.

http://www.afl.com.au/AFLHQ/History/AFL101/tabid/1029/Default.aspx#finishing —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.178.174.13 (talk) 05:43, 21 May 2008 (UTC)