Talk:Coitus reservatus

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It seems like a really dodgy form of contraception and I strongly protest against it. Men don't have enough will power if you know what I mean ;)

It is not a form of contraception, seems to be more of a philosophical approach to sex with the goal of enhancing the relationship of the partners - Krappyappy, 6/29/07

I don't think there's any cause to keep the NPOV warning up. The article isn't recommending any particular practice and more than adequately covers the unsuitability of coitus reservatus for contraception. Eodell93 23:22, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

There's no cause to keep this as disputed as the article is balanced and informative about the unsuitability of Karezza for contraception. it is really for mature adults.7ware3mess 19:25, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Looks like that NPOV isn't really serving much purpose at this point. The article notes the origins of the practice, its applications, and its drawbacks. It doesn't seem to encourage or discourage its use, and adequately notes that it is not a suitable contraceptive technique. Feel free to correct me/it if you think otherwise. --146.186.238.7 07:34, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

This article is written incredibly poorly. It is biased and uses very un-encyclopedic mannerisms. Recommend someone rewrite it. -Nightfighter89 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 20:18, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Terrible Article

This is a terrible article.

[edit] JDPhD

These edits looked suspicious, but now I've looked at them in some more detail, they look less suspicious and I may have been too hasty to revert. Perhaps they just need some tidying up. Comments please. Stephen B Streater (talk) 20:34, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Looks more plausible now, so have put it all back in (except the cliché) Stephen B Streater (talk) 20:45, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] not encyclopedic

This article reads like something from a Carezza Society Webpage. The people who came up with the practice may not have liked gay prostitutes and have meant it for a particular sexual situation, but it doesn't seem inherently inapplicable. And sickness from masturbating for too long?

"Presumably, the principles of karezza also apply to masturbation, whereby a man attempts to delay his ejaculation as long as possible to prolong pleasure in a process known as "edging." However, Karezza to be successful requires the maturity of a heterosexual married couple. This precludes masturbation, prostitution and homosexuality. Its cornerstone is a married heterosexual couple who is willing to undergo the discipline of coitus sine ejaculatio seminis.[3] Any one alone trying to prolongue the orgasm in masturbation as if it were karezza would not only be showing excessive morbid self-love but will only succeed in getting sick." Flounderer (talk) 04:52, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Clarification on homophobic editorial

"However, Karezza to be successful requires the maturity of a heterosexual married couple. This precludes masturbation, prostitution and homosexuality."

"The primary purpose of karezza is the maintenance, and indeed, intensification of desire and enjoyment of sexual pleasure within the context of long-term relationships."

The opinion from the article, that Karezza, or coitus reservatus, requires a heterosexual, married relationship (which it seems to say is the only kind of "long-term relationship"), is obviously quite homophobic and reads like an editorial commentary on homosexuality and lack of commitment to another person in a gay relationship. If this was being cited as an opinion from an expert source on Karezza, it would be valid if explained as such but that would need to be clarified in the entry. I understand, by definition, that Karezza precludes lesbian sex because the purpose is for a man to experience orgasm without ejaculation, but there doesn't seem to be any other characteristic that should exclude gay male sexual partners in a long-term relationship.

If not clarified, this is NOT an encyclopedic entry containing unbiased, factual information and needs to be edited. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nfugitt (talk • contribs) 18:28, 22 March 2008 (UTC)