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[edit] Meyer/Meyers

For Ruhrfisch -- you left this message on my user page. Thought I'd move it over here so the discussion's in a better location for anyone interested in the article:

Thanks for your edit to Cogan House Covered Bridge. According to your edit summary you made the change because A descendant asked me to correct "Meyers" to "Meyer." Here's my concern - I have two reliable sources on Valentine Meyers and they both agree that his name has an "s" at the end (one source is cited in the article, the other is not yet, but will be as I am planning on expanding the article soon). Both sources are by the same author (Milton W. Landis) and it is certainly possible that they are in error on "Meyers". I would be glad to give the other spelling ("Meyer") in the article, but I need a reliable source to back that up, and I think that is up to you or your acquaintance to provide. Since "Encyclopedic content must be verifiable", I am reverting until a reliable source is provided (or two). I look forward to hearing from you soon, thanks, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 14:20, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

My friend said, "If you need to use a citation, Meginness will do. (It's at the bottom of the page, and the genealogy (a loose one anyway) is given in that book. To be fair, Meginness spells my great-great-grandfather's name as 'Abraham Meyer,' 'Abram Meyers,' 'Abraham Myers' and every permutation imaginable. And Abraham Meyer was a contributor to the book, providing all the geological info for the thing.)" Is that enough info? Cheers! Kyriosity (talk) 19:48, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

P.S. It is spelled without the S in the sidebar thingy. Kyriosity (talk) 19:50, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for putting this here (and sorry I did not do so right away). I found Abraham Meyer in Meginness, but no found mention of Valentine. Is there a more explicit source? I also checked the edit history and I was the one who added the "Meyer" (no "s") in the Infobox (aka sidebar thingy). Since I added it before I added "Meyers" in the text, it may well be my error in adding the "s" (although, as you note, it is a name prone to multiple spellings). I will try to get to a library that has either the article or the book by Landis in the next day or so and double check it. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 22:09, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

More from my friend: "Thing is, within the family, the spelling changed, but if you look at Valentine's grandfather's grave (Martin Meyer, buried in Mound Cemetery) it's got no S. The Trout Run Meyer branch (Abraham's second family, basically) tend to add the S and spell it with only one E but Valentine's branch did not. Abraham would have been his uncle, I think, but I'm not sure by which of his (Abe's) brothers. I have 2nd cousin who's been better at keeping those extended lines up. I'll email her for the info. In the meantime, you can attach my name (C Meyer Matthews) as a source. I'm from the Martin>Abraham>Russell>Warren>Jack Meyer line. Martin was born in Germany, coming to the us about 1820, through Philly, marrying there, starting his family, then moving west to Williamsport with his children (as listed in Meginness) in 1850. I've seen Valentine's name in my handwritten notes but haven't entered into my database. I'll look at the notes tomorrow and see what I've got, and email [my cousin] if I don't find it."

What say we wait to see what she comes up with, and maybe we can save you a trip to the library. ;-) This isn't the sort of thing I usually edit, so thanks for your patience! Kyriosity (talk) 04:16, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I have double checked both pieces by Milton W. Landis and he calls him Meyers in both. Since that is the only reliable source I have that mentions Meyer(s) at all, I am listing Meyers as the prefered spelling, but giving or Meyer at the first occurrence in the article. There is probably space to do this in the infobox too, if that is the consensus. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 13:58, 14 May 2008 (UTC)