Talk:Cobra Group (Marketing)

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Contents 1 WARNING 2 General discussion 3 Criticism Section 4 my story

[edit] WARNING

Vandalising wiki with promotional information is unacceptable and may result in bans being enforced. Rotovia (talk) 10:40, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] General discussion

Its important to remember that each office is different, with different managers. Whats happens in one office would be different to another. if there was any 'unfair' practices they get dealt with for tainting the successful and honest image of the whole group.

I am the same guy who edited the wiki on 5th. any questions u might have can be posted here, ill try n answer them. 203.49.244.242 14:07, 4 February 2007 (UTC)Xeebok

BAh!! they remoed my entried. non encyclopediac commentry :(

mail me if u need any ques answered.

[edit] Criticism Section

• Misleading the public and the companies it represents. As a former employee of the cobra group I have first hand knowledge of some of the tactics the cobra group used to encourage it's "contracted workers" to use. This included but is not limited to falsely filling out blank application forms for credit cards so that targets can be hit as well as stealing other peoples sales. This link will show you a classic example of the things this company gets up to. http://au.news.yahoo.com/video/local/sa/ - Raffle Scam Uncovered Video

While I'm familiar with the Cobra Group, and know all the stuff written to be absolutely true, that point is written non-Wiki-like (much as I hate the term) with things such as 'I have first-hand knowledge etc', so I've moved it here to see if anyone can make it more suitable... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.249.187.88 (talk) 00:16, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

My personal opinion is that this article should under no circumstances be deleted. Sadly what you read in it is very true and i hope more people would read it before making the mistake i did and actually show up for the second interview (thus realizing what it's all about). I live in Greece, Athens and several branches of that company unfortunately do exist here. It's really sad that no legal action has been taken against these people. Anyway, please do an extensive search through the internet to find out more about them (it won't be very easy - since they predicted you'd do that - but once you find the first piece to the puzzle you'll easily uncover the whole story and the scary amount of unpleasant information there is to it). By the way the video in the first comment simply doesn't exist, check it out if you want. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.1.231.186 (talk) 17:18, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

I worked for a franchise off the cobra group! I wa not once told i was self employed or the pay structure it ended up costing me more money to work for them than i recieved. I urge people to take into serious consideration before working for this group! Yes the achievements can be great but can you endure the hardship IF you make it to ownership?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Knuttie (talk • contribs) 17:48, 22 December 2007 (UTC) 

[edit] my story

• mmmm I worked there and was a leader and regular high-roller. For my first month I made absolutely no money doing things the honest way. You would sit around on table sites with your leader and they'd constantly steal your business, and even buy whole books of tickets themselves ($50 a piece) just so that their sales figures looked good. One girl no matter what would always say "I'll fill in your book" if I dropped a book of tickets, and she'd fill out 1/2 to herself, and chick a psycho when I said "uuum... it's my sale", she'd claim they'd only bought from me because she was hot. Tina was her name. For the record she's short, chubby and anything but hot.

I became a leader by ignoring the rules. If I didn't have at least 80 tickets sold a day I'd walk into the pubs on the way home and sell tickets there. If I wanted to go home early, I'd just sell 60 tickets in 3 pubs (20 per pub) and then piss bolt back to the office. Bar managers complained, but I didn't wear my badge so they never traced it back to the office.

Even as a high roller I was struggling to rake in $500 a week. I cry thinking how little others made. The owners apparently made 100k+ a year, but I saw no evidence of it. My office had 2 "owners", who were living in a shared house with a bunch of other leaders. They usually had to do ground work selling tickets in order to subsidise their pitiful incomes.

The only people making money out of this are the office ladies (1 at each office) because they get a consistent income, and the guys at head office because they get a cut every time somebody sells a ticket. The rest are jokers who have been conned by the system...

PS - I had 1 good time. I sold 2 books of tickets to a brothel who thought I was a player from an AFL team. I told them I'd bring all the boys back later in the evening. They gave me a few free beers and some free services from a lady. When they realised I was just a dodgy bugger selling raffle tickets I bet they were pretty pissed.

Don't work there. Get a real job and study somewhere... first year out of uni I was already raking in more money than my "owner", and I have an honest job, not some shoddy sales job. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.111.201.60 (talk) 13:16, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

I knew the managers earned less than what they articulated when one of the almost-Vice Presidents (and founder of All-Sports direct) Anthony Tarquini berated me for telling one of my contractors to use the phone to try and ensure a $100 ticket was verified. Although it was work related apparently 14 cents is unaffordable for one of Cobra's highest members who claimed to be on $200,000 plus per year. I've since learned that what they claim is earned goes only to their business and that they are left with very little to live on. I worked with several Vice Presidents during my time with the company (meeting almost all of the heirarchy including Chris Niarchos) and was considered one of the potential Managers until I refused to work with the company and left due to irregularities. I was a Team Leader at the time. Lympathy ^Talk 14:55, 1 June 2008 (UTC)