Talk:Club de Gimnasia y Esgrima La Plata
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We might have to write a separate article on the crisis as it unfolds, because the crisis section is growing to be larger than the rest of the article...
Some Gimnasia fans who are not ashamed of who they are: Somo la 22 (Swahili)
[edit] Excellent
Yeah. NPOV... elpincha 03:19, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- Are you for a restoration+shortening of the deleted crisis text? --Mariano(t/c) 11:44, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- An article on GELP without any reference to the very deep crisis Gimnasia is in right now (Colo Colo, player exodus, 7-0, the strange second half v. Boca, the threats, Defensor, Santos, Palermo x4) is kinda unrealistic. But it seems some guys need to deny reality in order to survive, so I don't know...
[edit] Lede
I like the new lede (Jun 30, 2007) very much, far better than the old one that mentioned the basketball team. It deprives Gimnasia of a mention to their only championships, and shows the level of English skills that one can expect from triperos. elpincha 14:42, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] About the citation need
In the part of Volleyball, its required a citation. I found the information in the official site of GELP, but i don't know how to make the citation or reference, and the page it doesn't have a direct link. So you can find the info needed in the official site of GELP, in the part of history, Volleyball (Historia, Vóley).
If you put the website address in here it can be added to the article for you.♦Tangerines♦·Talk 01:50, 4 August 2007 (UTC)- I found a third party source in English so added that. ♦Tangerines♦·Talk 02:08, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
http://dbscripts.metrovoley.org.ar/fmv2007/site/Home/main.php?target=Institucional In this link it says that Gimnasia was one of the nine clubs that were members of the federation. It's also the official site of the Volleyball Federation, but it's in spanish.
[edit] Revision and new links
I believe the "crisis" section has grown out of proportion for this page. There is already a linked section on "History of Gimnasia y Esgrima La Plata", as well as a "Muñoz" page, to discuss these topics in more detail. There are other interesting things that could be included in this page, which were also "crisis" in their time, e.g. the one leading to the so-called "Arriba Gimnasia" movement. I suggest we bring some balance to this page, or provide some "trivia" at the end. Encyclopedic entries about football teams should not be bloated by minutia which happen to be fresher in people's memories. I do not want to start a silly Gimnasia/Estudiantes argument in doing these revisions, but it's evident from the discussion page that rivalry is tainting the content of this entry. I would like to get some input on this before doing any further revisions. Nordisk Varg Nordisk varg (talk) 20:08, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
I would suggest rewriting the "Recent crisis" section to bring it in line with the version in Spanish of this page, which is, in my view, much better focused. Please, have a look at that section and let me know if you agree. Nordisk varg (talk) 20:29, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- About the last question: maybe formatting, but the information should remain. The Spanish language article ignores the recent crisis completely. What we have here is a club that disgraced Argentine football with actions so foul that they do deserve a mention. The fact that their rivals won the tournament on top of Gimnasia's egregious match-fixing is worthy of mention. elpincha (talk) 11:50, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
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- I agree of the fact of mention the crisis, but its not worthy of mention at all, that Estudiantes won the tournament. It's Gimnasia's Article, not Estudiantes's. If you want to put it on the Estudiantes's article that would be fine, but not in ours. We are not hiding anything, the thing is that there is an article about Gimnasia's History, so we should not repeat more than once the same things, and in Gimnasia's article there are also links to estudiantes and the tournament that estudiantes won. I think that we should get translate the spanish version, wich is a "good article", and then thinking in what we can add to it.--Tincho gelp (talk) 14:08, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
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- You know what? I agree. Do you think second-place finishes should be mentioned in so many different places? (I do, but for all the wrong reasons :-)
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