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Contents 1 Sonmi "near future"? 2 Removed reference to the band by the same name. 3 Second halves 4 Second halves (cleared up) 5 Orison 6 Motifs v. Themes 7 Connections section looks like original research

[edit] Sonmi "near future"?

Is it made clear how much time has passed? It would have surely had to be a good few generations for Korea to be in a state where people (the union members) grow up not knowing who Buddhah is; that I know of no totalatarian state has ever wiped out knowledge of what went before that well. I imagined it about 100 years from now; which is fairly near as history goes, but I think "near future" might be misledaing A Geek Tragedy 16:52, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removed reference to the band by the same name.

"Cloud Atlas is also the name of a very talented, but as of yet, unsigned band." Maybe if the "very talented" band known as Cloud Atlas had a page, there could be a disambiguation link to the page, but the fact that there is a band by the same name and the opinion that they are talented are off topic. Finesttiger 10:42, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Second halves

"Except for the second half of "Letters from Zedelghem," each story ends with its protagonist finding the second half of this story, which is then printed after it." Actually, this is true also for "Letters from Zedelghem," -- Luisa Rey receives the packet of letters from Sixsmith's neice. And in "Letters," Frobisher finds the last part of Ewing's diary propping up a leg of his bed. Am I missing something? adamrice 20:27, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

"Except for the second half of "Letters from Zedelghem," each story ends with its protagonist finding the second half of this story, which is then printed after it."

I don't think this is true. Frobisher finds the second half of Ewing's Pacific journal propping up the leg of his bed in Zedelghem. In turn, Frobisher's second batch of letters are found by Louisa Reye. I don't, however, recall Ewing reading/watching the events of other chapters. Perhaps this should read "Except for 'The Pacific Journal of Adam Ewing'...", however, I don't know how accurate that is either. Can anyone recall a true exception to the rule of finding the second halves of stories? Rob 18:01, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Second halves (cleared up)

The two above comments questioning the comment regarding "Zedelghem" and it's continuation into "Pacific" are quite right. Quoting from the final letter in "Letters From Zedelghem", halfway down page 489:

"Along with this letter and the rest of the Ewing book, I've made arrangements..."

Frobisher has attached the rest of the Pacific Journal (as well as the Cloud Atlas Sextet score) to his final letter. It's very clear that the Zedelghem story is meant to be perceived from Sixsmith's point of view, i.e. the intended reader of the letters, so it follows that Sixsmith would read the rest of the journal after the letter. --AstarothCY 08:47, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Orison

For some reason, the orison makes me think of the ansible. There's something similar about the words that I can't quite put my finger on. Kelvingreen 00:13, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Motifs v. Themes

I don't believe they are synonymous, so I'm reverting that edit. Motifs are frequent occurence of small and similar things, such as the tatoos or the word "Hydra," as well as incidental scenes, concepts, or ideas. Themes are, rather, a dominant subject area the work explores through its use of plot, character development, and structure. Thus they should be separated. If you have better reasons for combining them, by all means--I'd be interested to know. Perhaps the section should be better split up that way. Macman202 (talk) 16:19, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I've deleted both sections for lack of sources. It looks like original research anyway.
Jim Dunning | talk 03:27, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Connections section looks like original research

I tagged the Connections with other works section for clean-up and citations. It's like one run-on sentence, but I hesitate to fix it till sources are provided for all the "connections" listed there (otherwise it's probably an editor's analysis. I'll start hunting around for some sources.
Jim Dunning | talk 17:08, 13 February 2008 (UTC)