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[edit] Boston Market

Hi. What's the rationale for this edit? For one thing, possessive "its" doesn't take an apostrophe. Thanks. —Fleminra 23:05, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

None actually.. Somehow I accidentally almost reverted it to my [1] September 21, 2005 edit.. I've reverted myself — Cliffb 01:04, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Max & Erma's

It was an instant recognize for me, I was in one once but I have never done a merge before. Thanks.--John Lake 01:47, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks much. I had the idea that it might be an admin move. Thanks again.--John Lake 02:27, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of Boeing 737 orders

If you read the associated talk pages, you'll see that I would have no objection. I created this page to get a lot of the garbage off the main Boeing 737 page. —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 05:12, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

  • I don't think I have any objections to that either, just to let you know that the article's probably split as the result of its ballooning size from the parent article. Airbus A400M made give you an idea where it's coming from. - Best regards, Mailer Diablo 08:36, 29 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] storage

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[edit] US Airways reverts

I saw those and did not see a problem with what you did. This will probably continue until the merger is completed. Editors need to understand how the various parts of a holding company fit together. Vegaswikian 05:28, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] About Southwest Airlines Vacations removal

I am removing this link as it was removed with a collection of links in this reversion, [2] , in reference to WP:NOT regarding links. Also SWA Vacations is accessible from Southwest's homepage which is also linked to the article, making the link somewhat redundant. Michael Greiner 02:10, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moo

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[edit] Airport Vandal

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[edit] Bankers Life and Casualty

Thanks for the info, but when I sorted Bankers Life and Casualty into {{bank-stub}} over a year ago, Category:Insurance company stubs didn't yet exist. The category was created only last week. When I edited Bankers Life and Casualty, the template {{bank-stub}} still covered all financial services, including insurances. The article wasn't sorted into the wrong category, it was simply overtaken by time, to put it fatalistically.

[edit] JetBlue

Anytime. Sorry to have taken so long to respond (I did not know I had a message). Working for JetBlue is a great job. I love it. --Neo16287 12:03 22 Spetember 2006 (UTC)

[edit] award

The Original Barnstar
For your hard work and dedication to improving Wikipedia, I, Sharkface217, hereby award you this Original Barnstar. Good job! Sharkface217 20:39, 4 November 2006 (UTC)


Your work concerning Airplane-related subjects was exceptional. Sharkface217 20:34, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the laugh

Nice edit summary :) Dylan Lake (t·c·e) 08:53, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bot duplicate stubbing

You're right, that does look a bit silly: I'll see if I can work out an improved behaviour in cases like this. Trouble is that the original stub-tagging was somewhat redundant anyway (actor-stub and two sub-types, which somewhat defeats the point of sorting in the first place), but it's really necessary to read the article text to determine which of them should best be removed. Perhaps I'll just skip cases like this, and generate a list of stubs to fix hand. Alai 17:13, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] JetBlue Edit

My bad on that one! Someone called me telling me that STL had become a focus city, and in my excitement (I travel a lot) I edited it based on his call.

Sorry!

Georgestr 03:05, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MD-90

What makes you say that the MD-90 was the RJ of its time? The similarly-sized Airbus A320 predates the MD-90.

The MD-90 was McDonnell Douglas's answer to the Airbus A320. McDonnell Douglas bragged about how little money they spent on developing the MD-90 as compared to the A320. Compared to the MD-80, the MD-90's wingspan was increased by only two inches, thus limiting its performance. The MD-90 initally had a large order from Delta Air Lines to replace their aging Boeing 727 fleet. In the end, the MD-90 simply wasn't able to deliver the performance of the competition, due to its lack of range and slow cruise speed. After Boeing bought out McDonnell Douglas, the MD-90 was doomed, as Boeing concentrated on selling the 737-800, which does feature transcontinental range and has a faster cruise speed. Many airlines (including Delta) began to cancel their remaining MD-90 orders in favor of the Airbus A320 or the Boeing 737-800. If McDonnell Douglas put more resources into the MD-90 (such as increasing wingspan even more), it might have seen the success of the A320 or the 737-800.

Please feel free to leave any comments. Andros 1337 21:23, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help with Eastbourne

I am trying to gather a small group of people to improve the Eastbourne article and writing to you as you have edited that page recently. I have set up a what needs to be done section on the talk page, and I am hoping that I will get a few people to start a discussion. It would be wonderful if you could spare a few minutes just to look at the current Eastbourne article and give your opinion. It would be even more wonderful if you could join in with this small project as well. Thank you MortimerCat 12:04, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] TRS Images

Thanks for your carification in Telecommunications Relay Service. I've added a fair use rationalle for each of the images in question. I also visited your site and sent you an e–mail, and I added my AIM screen name to my userpage. Taric25 07:50, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Adoption

Sure, I wouldn't mind adoption. I'm not exactly sure how it works, as far as the technical aspect goes. Is there some code that has to be added to our userpages? Taric25 20:43, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

I took a look at that talk thread. I had a few laughs. I couldn't believe that Zubdub, or anyone for that matter, would take so much pride to have so much ownership over their edits. I also read Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation_popups/About_fixing_redirects, and I found it very interesting. If I'm editing a page anyway, I go ahead and fix redirects if I so desire, but editing a page expressly for the purpose of fixing a redirect is unnecessary; unless it leads to a disambiguation page but that's a completely different situation. Anyway, why did you want me to read that? I feel like you've looked over my shoulder (like any good adopter should :) ) and tried to tell me something, but I can't tell what that something is. Can you fill me in? Thanks! Taric25 04:55, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Ok, I see. I was thinking that you looked through my contributions and saw that I was doing that recently, and you were trying to show me a lesson, however, I do see now how that applies to me on a more general basis. Specifically, I see that I may have been a bit too ambitious with my TRS images, however, as per the disputed fair use tag, the correct procedure is to add the appropriate tag to the caption rather than delete it from the article, regardless of clutter. In either case, you're absolutely right, since it wastes time an energy to be so finicky. As far as a subpage goes, sure, I'd like to set one up. Do I have to add some code to my userpage to do it? Thanks! Taric25 06:53, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
I created User_talk:Taric25/Mentoring, so we can talk more about it there. Taric25 07:07, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Remarks on Today in the Sky

Hey Cliffb- You made an interesting point regarding ATC on Today in the Sky. I agree with what you said. How many runway incursions has Canada had versus the US? My compliments. Neo16287 00:58, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Response to AMA Request

Hello Cliffb, I'm Dfrg.msc (talk · contribs) and I'll be your Advocate for your case: Wikipedia:Association of Members' Advocates/Requests/March 2007/Cliffb. I will try to find a resolution to this and help you to achieve your outcomes, hoverer, you must be patient. You have done the right thing in requesting an Advocate.

If you have any questions, just ask me at my talk page. Regards, Dfrg.msc 05:13, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Great, I'm working on a response now. Dfrg.msc 05:39, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Response from Dfrg.msc

How bizarre. Firstly, let's clarify some things:

  • I have reviewed you edits, I was quite impressed, you have a good edit history and strong contributions. I see no evidence of expression of "homosexual opinions about other men".
  • Regrettably, there are certain risks you take when revealing personal information about your self on Wikipedia, and online. This is one of them. However, I would urge you to stay true to who you are, don't let this guy influence you.
  • Currently, there are conflicting view on Homosexuality. Whilst being heterosexual myself, I see no reason at all why homosexuals don't deserve the same respect as all other human beings. If you want to get married, you can hold the ceremony at my house. Gay is not a "too soft a word" it is a commonly accepted slang term for homosexual.
  • You are not genetically damaged, but it seems the person who wrote this letter is. Neither are you "a poor woman trapped inside of a man's body", these accusations are absolutely ludicrous and utterly false. Sexuality is a life decision and has little influence from genetic or outside conditions.
  • Your edits are welcome, your edits are welcome, your edits are welcome. And nothing could be further from the truth.

[edit] Actions you can take

I'm not an expert on this subject, but I'll try.

  • The mail you received is harassment. It is right to take action.
  • Harassment over the internet is becoming more and more common, mainly because it is difficult to trace effectively. A shame the email address isn't valid, but it appears Dough is that stupid.
  • Follow up your abuse reports and with the IP address in question's ISP AT&T Worldnet.
  • I can't give you much help at all with the user on Wikipedia. It seems apparent that this came from an editor, and possibly an established one. It is possible though to find a user on Wikipedia with their IP address. For example, my IP is: 220.236.205.132. I think check user ect. can link the user with the IP address. I can get someone to look at this option if you request.

I think thats all I can offer at this time. If you have any further questions or requests, the case is still open. Cheers, Dfrg.msc 06:25, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Resp

Check Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser out. We can prepare a request on the AMA page. Cheers, Dfrg.msc 06:57, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

I think it could be listed under a "Request to identify and block the IP addresses responsible for blatant vandalism and attack accounts". Dfrg.msc 08:16, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
I will make a comment on the talk page, could you please provide the IP number? Cheers, Dfrg.msc 05:12, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Looks good, I'll make a few minor changes and place it on the Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser talk page. Dfrg.msc 05:31, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Right, I'll take the the request to UninvitedCompany directly, and you can make a HideandLeek Checkuser request, if you want. Cheers, Dfrg.msc 22:42, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed Personally identifiable information

To: Cliffb (talk · contribs) and Dfrg.msc (talk · contribs)

From: Kevinkor2 (talk · contribs)

I've taken the liberty of removing the names and e-mail addresses from your AMA case. The following are the changes I made:

You can see the information that was originally there by clicking on the (diff) links above.

--Kevinkor2 08:52, 26 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Case closed

I think so too, but you never know, something might come up later. I'll keep an ear out. I've enjoyed working on the case, if you need anything, just ask. Cheers, Dfrg.msc 09:25, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE: ATC Remarks

Hey Cliff. I agree, the FAA is way off the mark. I think one of the reasons for issues such as requesting a terminal return while not losing their slot is a ploy from the FAA related to something lke pressure from the airlines about delays. For instance, the John Cusack film Pushing Tin is ATC focused, when Cusack's character complains to his supervisor about a fellow controller, he mentions that "keeping them (the passengers) alive is a very close second to keeping them on time." An organization that was customer orientated would be fine by me, as such organizations would lower stress levels among passengers and employees alike. And lower stress levels would lead to airlines setting examples, and before you know it, we could have, to take the quote from David Neeleman, brought humanity back to air travel. I would not be against a total review of the FAA. You mentioned Comair Flight 5191. I was working at BOS when it occurred, and it shook us all, because a plane had crashed, and though we did not know it at the time, it could have been prevented. I've had a dream to be a pilot all my life, and such incidents do not deter me, but they make me question whether or not I want to fly in the USA if such incidents continue. Another incident is the runway incursion at BOS, and other such airports - the FAA doesn't even know they're erring. A new organization centered on customer service and safety alike would be not only ok in my book, I'd stand up and support it. Sorry to have written a book here, but your message intrigued me. Neo16287 18:25, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] no problem

Tracked that one over multiple user pages doing the same thing; now blocked for a week by one of the WP:AIAV admins. Incidentally, you may be interested in joining WP:LGBT. Peace, coelacan — 21:28, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Aviation Newsletter delivery

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[edit] The Miami Valley School

Sorry, I do sometimes get going too fast. Thanks for assuming good faith and cleaning up after me. Ntsimp 05:32, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fleet Age update

Hey Cliffb- every 1st of the month I look at [www.airfleets.net] and check on the fleet age of various airlines that I contribute to on wikipedia. I make changes to the fleet age whenever the website (airfleets.net) updates the fleet age- I haven't been adding the .833 years to the age (since I haven't known the exact number it goes up) when the number doesn't change but the only thing I can think of that makes the fleet age remain somewhat constant is the addition of new aircraft to the airline's fleet? If you have any questions just leave me a message. Sox23 14:54, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

No problem. Thanks for your response...I'll make sure to update the article once the site updates itself. Sox23 20:41, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Piedmont Airlines and PSA Airlines

Hi Cliffb, I have been the one updating the IATA code for both of those airlines. The reason why is that EN is Air Dolomiti not Piedmont Airlines and JS is Air Koryo not PSA Airlines. So since they are operated by US Airways Express and their code is US, it would have to be US. Sorry if this has been driving you crazy. RokinRyan

As an employee of Piedmont Airlines, you are incorrect in "updating" the IATA codes for our airline. Apparently you have missed the details about IATA codes that "Controlled duplicates are issued to regional airlines whose destinations are not likely to overlap, such that some codes are shared by two different airlines."
Just as EN is the IATA code for Piedmont Airlines, my company ID also includes EN as a part of my employee number. We also have tail numbers on some of our aircraft that use our IATA code. Please view http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0639036/M/ and you'll see what I mean.
This chart might also lend some credibility to my statements. http://thehub.usairways.com/travel/2006/0428_BoardingPriorityChart.pdf Read what it says in the blue box in the upper right corner for "active employees". Also reference the row for S3 and S4 travel as it pertains to active employees and retirees of JS and EN.
In reference to your statement above, Piedmont and PSA are not "operated by US Airways Express". There is no corporation known as US Airways Express. Rather, US Airways Inc (US), Piedmont Airlines (EN), and PSA Airlines (JS) are all subsidiaries of the corporate entity known as US Airways Group. It is exactly the opposite of your statement. There is a general group of flights by nine regional carriers that comprise the marketing identity of "US Airways Express". Some of those flights are OPERATED by Piedmont Airlines, just as some US Aiways Express flights are OPERATED by PSA Airlines. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.200.121.62 (talk • contribs).

I am getting this info directly from Worldspan's reservation system EN DLA AIR DOLOMITI 101 and JS AIR KORYO --- and also from http://www.airlinecodes.co.uk

IATA Code:  EN 
ICAO Code:  DLA
IATA Accounting / Prefix Code:   
Known As:  Air Dolomiti 
Full Name:  Air Dolomiti S.p.A. Aeree Regionali Europee 
Country:  Italy 
Callsign:  Dolomiti 
Remarks:  Name changed from Air Dolomiti S.p.A. 
Notes:   
Web Site:  www.airdolomiti.it/  

and

IATA Code:  JS 
ICAO Code:  KOR 
IATA Accounting / Prefix Code:  120 
Known As:  Air Koryo 
Full Name:  Air Koryo 
Country:  Korea, Democratic People's Republic of 
Callsign:  Air Koryo 
Remarks:   
Notes:   
Web Site:  www.korea-dpr.com/airkoryo.htm  

However for Piedmont I got this on the same site

IATA Code:  US* 
ICAO Code:  PDT 
IATA Accounting / Prefix Code:   
Known As:  USAir Express 
Full Name:  Piedmont Airlines, Inc. d/b/a USAir Express 
Country:  United States of America 
Callsign:  Piedmont 
Remarks:   
Notes:   
Web Site:    
  • = Controlled duplicate

and

IATA Code:   
ICAO Code:  JIA 
IATA Accounting / Prefix Code:   
Known As:  PSA Airlines 
Full Name:  PSA Airlines 
Country:  United States of America 
Callsign:  Blue Streak 
Remarks:  Changed name from Jetstream International Airlines w.e.f. 01/11/1995 
Notes:  US Airways Express Carrier 
Web Site:  www.psaairlines.com

So from two sites, it must be right. Alot of the times the N number doesn't really mean anything like N371CA, CA is China Airlines, not Comair. So with that I change both back to US. If you indeed find something that proves me wrong let me know and either I will change it or you can. RokinRyan

I'm not really a part of this discussion at the moment. Additionally, it would probably be better to discuss this over at Talk:Piedmont Airlines.. Cheers!

Thank you, I promise to let you know if I have any questions. And I think that is a good idea to let the editors know. -RokinRyan

US Airways gives the two letter designations JS for PSA and EN for Piedmont but those codes are NOT IATA codes - they are only used internally at US Airways to designate those two airlines. The two airlines don't officially have an IATA code and they fly using the US code. US Airways gives a two-letter code for all of their express airline affiliates and most of them are the actual IATA code. One notable exception is Trans States Airlines which IATA Code is AX but US Airways labels them TJ for internal reports and identification. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.47.205.126 (talk) 17:22, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] DIA

I changed the disambig on the Denver International Airport page. Is that what you meant for? Sox23 02:19, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

haha no prob- do you still want KDEN to redirect to Denver International Airport, or should I un-redirect it (if that's even a word) Sox23 02:26, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Seabreeze I Sinking

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[edit] A Word of Thanks!

Hello Cliffb! A few weeks you reverted some vandalism to my user page, regarding a local airport dispute. I never got a chance to thank you for your quick action. Thank you very much! Neo16287 (talk) 15:51, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

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