User talk:Clem23

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[edit] The Afd

Thanks for calling my attention to it! --Goochelaar 20:59, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Boubaker polynomials

Hi. I've corrected your nomination of this article for deletion. When there has already been an afd, add the text (2nd nomination) to the debate name to create a second debate. The templates make this hinky, so no worries - just wanted to let you know. The new nom is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Boubaker polynomials (2nd nomination). Thanks, UltraExactZZ Claims ~ Evidence 18:58, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

No problem, my pleasure. UltraExactZZ Claims ~ Evidence 19:17, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Communication difficulty

Howdy, I wanted to ask you about some of the contributors to Boubaker polynomials. It seems that French is likely to be a better language for things Boubaker, and you have experience with such things on the French wikipieda. On the English wikipedia, many of the edits to Boubaker polynomial and its talk page have been, at first glance, gibberish or insulting. With some work, I have often been able to reconstruct something sensible, but have even been (apparently) attacked for doing this!

I worry that there are two barriers to communication with many of the "pro-Boubaker" editors, and I think you could probably help with at least one. Firstly, the editors do not seem to understand the wikipedia website interface. It is very common for comments to be randomly interspersed in other text. Secondly, the editors' written English is not always good enough to make their point understood. All I've gotten out of one of the recent edits to the AfD is that the editor does not understand WP:CIVIL or even WP:NPA.

In an ideal world, the AfD should not be decided by the competence of its proponents, but just on the facts. There should not be the keepers and the deleters, but just editors who each make a clear, rational, informed decision about whether the article meets the inclusion criteria, and then discuss their decisions in a civilized way until consensus is reached.

I fear the discussion part is made difficult by the communication barriers.

  • Do you have any idea how to help some of these editors communicate more effectively? Would such a simple thing as switching to French help?
  • Do you know someone who the editors might feel is more neutral than you? I gather from their comments that they feel you are some sort of racist sociopath, so they may not agree to let you translate or moderate. There are a few editors here who have worked civilly with them, but I fear they (objectively) have better things to do.

At any rate, thanks for any help you can give to make the AfD more civil. JackSchmidt (talk) 22:26, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Ah, thank you for clearing up part of the confusion. There are probably two groups of editors (here, there is no "one" creator account, but multiple IPs and user names). Certainly it makes more sense that most are reasonable, but a few are vocal vandals. It has been difficult to sort them out, because of the mix of anonymous edits, and new user accounts.
Thanks for the warning about the French AfD. I believe such AfDs are often closed as delete on en.wikipedia, though I haven't decided if that is good. If I see more believable comments, I'll get in touch with the two French wikipedia editors you mentioned. Right now, I'll waste my time formatting the latest WP:NPA.
Thanks for your patience, too. AfD is often emotional, but it is rarer to have so many personal attacks thrown about. I hope you continue to contribute to the English wikipedia (though I can see walking away from this AfD). JackSchmidt (talk) 22:57, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 77bcr77

Je ne voix pas pourquoi je suis bloquer, alors que j'ai une autorisation pour les demande graphique, (Voir GillesC et Semhur)

Donc, il n'y a aucune bonne raison pour me bloquer, Cancelos (talk) 09:41, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Désolé, s'il y avait une autorisation (que je n'ai pas vu) elle est annulée. Tout contournement sur WP:FR entraînera ton blocage et l'annulation de tes modifications. Pour une foisje ne prolonge pas le blocage du compte principal, mais la prochaine fois je réinitialise pour 18 mois. Clem23 (talk) 10:59, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Je fait des demande pour mon travail sur Wikipédia Portugal, la bas cela n'existe pas encore, et je préfère le faire sur Fr, il existe en anglais, mais je ne comprend pas, et je ne voix pas ce qui gène, des demandes de cartes de sont pas des contournement (car je ne fait que demander quelque chose, je ne contribue pas sur les articles, donc s'il te plait peut tu remettre ce que tu as enlevée ? Cancelos (talk) 11:03, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Peut-tu m'aider à traduire mes demande pour les mettre en anglais ? Cancelos (talk) 11:08, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Je voudrais savoir, un truc.
Faire une demande c'est vraiment un contournement ? je te dit ça car je préfère les cartes de l'atelier graphique Wikipédia France, personne est contre, ce qu'ils veulent, c'est que je ne donne pas un travail que j'ai rapporter sans respecter la règle des copies, donc puis-je faire au moins une demande (Forêt Portugaise ?), Cancelos (talk) 09:53, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Mais c'est seulement une demande, Cancelos (talk) 09:58, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Boubaker, et al

I agree, it looks like we're seeing the beginnings of what you folks at FR have been dealing with for a while now. I've consulted with one of our checkusers, who recommends that you send a request for joint/combined checkuser to the main checkuser mailing list. On our end, A report of Suspected Sockpuppetry can be made at WP:SSP, and that's usually a prelude to checkuser - though, given the evidence you've already collected that may be a moot point. I believe the checkuser spans all the wikis, but it might not be a bad idea to ping one of the dutch checkusers as well. I'll keep an eye on things with the AfD, as well - it's getting messy, but nothing we cannot handle. Thanks again, and let me know if there is anything else I can do to help. I'm on the french wiki as well (sort of - fr:Utilisateur:Ultraexactzz), but I'm best reached here, for obvious reasons. Best, UltraExactZZ Claims ~ Evidence 03:42, 28 February 2008 (UTC)