Template talk:Clarinet

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Contents 1 Criteria 2 Order of sizes 3 Emma Johnson 4 Subcontra 5 Colors

[edit] Criteria

PLEASE NOTE: The list of clarinetists is not intended to be comprehensive; otherwise this box would be far too lengthy. I recommend two criteria: Clarinetists who actually have a WP article (no redlinks!) and who are truly among the most notable. Obviously the first of these is easily verified while the second is a judgement call. Use your best judgement, and use discussion before adding or deleting if there are any doubts.

One criterion that could be used (for the living clarinetists) is inclusion in Pamela Weston's "Clarinet Virtuosi of the Present". Currently, I am missing names and despite a lifelong interest in the clarinet and peripheral phenomena, I notice several names on the list I (but who am I?) have never heard of. Otherwise of course this remains largely arbitrary. brian stormen 11:20, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

For the list of makers, at this writing there are few enough with WP articles that we can include all of them. -- Rsholmes 12:00, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Order of sizes

Very nice template. One suggestion: the clarinets should probably be listed from high to low, not in alphabetical order. I wouldn't think of ordering saxophones, for example, in alphabetical order; high to low is the most logical way to go. Badagnani 19:38, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

I dithered over that. I decided on alphabetical but I'm not dogmatic about it -- I'll change it to size order one of these days, unless there are contrary opinions voiced first. Thanks for the input. -- Rsholmes 19:53, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

By size makes sense to me, as there's no real need for alphabetical in a case like this. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 20:59, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

I prefer by size, but I would like to have "Clarinets by size" and "More clarinets" or something, because the instruments like Saxonette, Quarter tone Clarinet, and Basset Clarinet don't really fit in the ordering. I went ahead with the proposed merge of the octobass clarinets to Sub-Contrabass clarinets (I chose the plural to acknowledge a category since there is no single instrument called a Sub-contrabass clarinet). I really wanted to avoid the situation on the flute pages where there are a whole bunch of stubs for all the various flutes below bass--including lots of people's garage inventions--none of which add up to a full article --Myke Cuthbert 22:43, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I think it'd be excessively fussy to have a separate line, especially since I don't think Basset clarinet ought to be split out from the rest. They may not really fit the ordering, but I don't think one should confuse that with not belonging to the same category. -- Rsholmes 02:00, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Emma Johnson

I've put the entry for Emma Johnson (musician) into proper alphabetical place, formatted it correctly, and disambiguated. However, the other clarinetists in the template are there either because they are among the most famous, or they are among the most historically significant. My feeling is that Johnson has neither sufficient fame nor sufficient significance, so far at least, to justify including her in the template, and I'm considering deletion. Any comments? -- Rsholmes 02:29, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

good call. Agreed. --Myke Cuthbert 22:43, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Tend to agree. One criterion that could be used (at least for the living clarinetists) is inclusion in Pamela Weston's "Clarinet Virtuosi of the Present". Currently, I am missing names and despite a lifelong interest in the clarinet and peripheral phenomena, I notice several names on the list I (but who am I?) have never heard of. Otherwise of course this remains largely arbitrary. brian stormen 11:22, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Subcontra

I think the two sizes of subcontra should be given in the template instead of just "subcontra." Badagnani 23:50, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

I disagree, because there simply isn't enough information about each of them to warrant its own page. Why don't we list Eb and D clarinets separately? or Bb, A, and C? Surely there is more independent information on literature for A and Bb clarinet as there is for Octocontralto versus Octocontrabass.

--Myke Cuthbert 01:14, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Colors

Could we get a variety of similar lighter/darker tones in the body of the template as well, the way the light purple ones do? Badagnani 09:29, 14 October 2007 (UTC)