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1 Discussion
2 disambiguation
3 Chart success: Magical Ring
4 Fair use rationale for Image:Angelclannad33.jpg
5 Fair use rationale for Image:Anamclannad.jpg
6 Fair use rationale for Image:Band50.jpg
7 Fair use rationale for Image:Clannadmagicalring.jpg
8 Fair use rationale for Image:Clannadmacalla33.jpg
9 Fair use rationale for Image:Clannadlegend33.jpg
10 Fair use rationale for Image:Clannadfuaimfuaim.jpg
11 Fair use rationale for Image:Clannaddulaman.jpg
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16 Album
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28 Fair use rationale for Image:Clannadlegend33.jpg
29 Fair use rationale for Image:Clannadlore1.jpg
30 Fair use rationale for Image:Clannadmacalla33.jpg
31 Fair use rationale for Image:Clannadmagicalring.jpg
32 Fair Use Rationale Violations
33 Redirection for Clannad (visual novel)
34 External Links
35 Disambiguation Proposal
36 Welsh???

[edit] Discussion

""Harry's Game", the group's theme song for a television soap opera, was utilized in a commercial for Volkswagen in 1992 and won Clannad newfound popularity in the United States."

Harry's Game was not a soap opera. It was a tv-miniseries about a secret agent infiltrating the Northern Ireland community to ferret out a murderer who had killed a cabinet minister. Based on a Gerald Seymour novel, it featured Ray Lonnen.

Soap opera? LMAO --202.47.49.115 15:36, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

2000-Present. Things like most loved songs in musical history seem a bit judgemental for an encyclopedic article. I like Clannad, but that is a bit biased isn't it? Discussion? mercator079 8:22, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] disambiguation

How does on change the article name? I want to add an article on "clannad" which is a word of gaelic origin meaning a sub-clan, like and extended family, a smaller social unit that the clan but not exactly the same as what is usually meant by 'family' in modern usage. I want to change the article on the pop-group to Clannad_(pop_group) and use "Clannad" for the meaning of the word clannad. (OF course, the word clannad was chosen by the group for its meaning, but the name of the group is subordinate to the meaning) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ojl (talk • contribs) 12:40, 5 December 2006 (UTC).

I'm a native Gaelic speaker and I can tell you that clannad does not mean that, it means An Clann As Dobhair, abbreviated then by the Irish group. You are probably reffering to the word 'clann' or 'clan'.

Wikipedia is not a dictionary; that is what Wiktionary is for.--十八 22:39, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chart success: Magical Ring

"The album features some of Clannad's best and most enduring original compositions like "Tower Hill", "Passing Time", "Newgrange" and "I See Red"." - 'I See Red' is credited to Jim Rafferty so can't be considered an original composition. Chunkymonkey2 19:40, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Album

Hey, why isn't "The Celtic Voice" album included?

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[edit] Fair Use Rationale Violations

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[edit] Redirection for Clannad (visual novel)

I'm standing firm on this issue, I've deleted the redirection option to Clannad (visual novel) at the top of this page, because it doesn't exist on that page giving you the option to defer to the Clannad article. Why should one rule not apply to the other.If someone typed in CLANNAD looking for the article about the group there would be no mention of it at all in that article.--MaxPride (talk) 19:52, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Because when people search for "Clannad", they come here, and they may well be searching for Clannad (visual novel), not the other way around. CLANNAD redirects to the game since that's the original spelling of the visual novel, and this band's name is not written in all caps, hence the redirection to the game for CLANNAD. Pretty much, no one is going to go to Clannad (visual novel) trying to look for the article on the band, but many people will come to this band's article looking for the visual novel. That's just how it is.--十八 22:04, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Make it the other way around. Popularity votes requieres it. Makes no sense of typing in clannad and seeing this band first instead of other way around. (Anon)

I've just put a dablink on Clannad (visual novel) to Clannad. Let's see if it stays there. I agree that it's unlikely that someone would search for the band using all caps, but it's not impossible. Northernhenge (talk) 19:00, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, just like it's not impossible that the world may end tomorrow, but that doesn't mean we have to prepare for the end either. There is not even mention in this article about a possible spelling of the band's name as CLANNAD, and any attempt to add it in would be considered original research and would have to be removed. Since the band's name is never official spelling in all caps, Wikipedia cannot cater to some people that might spell it in all caps.--十八 00:15, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

The dablink was removed from the Japanese Visual Novel. If it removed once more, the it should be removed also from this article. Fair is fair. (Anon)—Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.44.32.243 (talk • contribs)

I'm sorry, but you don't understand how dablinks are meant to be used. I don't want to repeat myself forever, so read my earlier replies.--十八 04:15, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

I do in fact know how they work. No need to repeat yourself. As they have the same spelling, I think it is quite adequate, regardless of their cases, that they link to and from each other. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.156.0.153 (talk) 23:47, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I have again removed the dablink. Please note that the Clannad novel is in fact not officially spelled in caps, therefor if linking to Clannad (visual novel) from Clannad (the band), I believe that these links should be reciprocal. Both are spelled in exactly the same way. The point of Wikipedia is to give each user a learning experience and a wealth of knowledge. If one thing is called Clannad, one purpose is to explore other things called Clannad - to build general knowledge. The Dablink therefor must be added to BOTH pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.157.201.135 (talk) 22:41, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Do you see the logo on Clannad (visual novel)? Look very carefully now, and answer this question: Does it look like "Clannad" or "CLANNAD"? The point is that the visual novel is official spelled in all caps, but due to WP:MOS-JP the title is decapped. You're just trying to make Wikipedia work the way you want it to, but that's not going to happen.--十八 01:26, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

There's no policy or guideline on this. Right now people searching on Clannad could be searching for the band or the novel. --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 22:50, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

I agree with NeilN and 86.157.201.135, but they are making different points. I agree with both points. NeilN's point is about searching, and I still think someone might search for the band or the comic using any combination of upper and lower case. 86.157.201.135's point is about the structure of the information stored in Wikipedia. The two articles are related because they have the same name and therefore the appropriate link in both directions is a dab link, not (just) a wikilink. My conclusion is that the links should be there. The complication is that the Clannad (visual novel) community do not want the link to be there. To be honest, I'm not bothered about this particular example but the general points (searching and information structure) suggest to me that the links should be there. We need an admin opinion on this, but I'm fairly new around here so I don't know how to get one or how definitive it would be in any case. --Northernhenge (talk) 12:37, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] External Links

I added two external links as I believe they are/will be good resources on the subject matter 'Clannad'. I also corrected the information on the logo's page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.155.54.127 (talk) 00:16, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Disambiguation Proposal

Disambiguation links on Clannad and Clannad (visual novel) keep on being added and removed. To resolve this situation how about moving Clannad to Clannad (band), creating a new Clannad disambiguation page, and pointing both Clannad and CLANNAD to it? --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 00:15, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

_{(Also note that this is simultaneously being discussed at Clannad (visual novel).) --nyoro~! Highwind888 (talk) 01:08, 12 April 2008 (UTC)}

I think that the disambiguation should happen, to end this whole arguement. CLANNAD fanatics are adding a dablink, Clannad fanatics are removing it, therefore the disambiguation would end all of this. It should also be noted that CLANNAD points to the visual novel, and Clannad to the band. Either both pages contain dablinks or none of them do.. or this proposal goes ahead. It's quite simple. I have posted this on CLANNAD discussion as well.

[edit] Welsh???

I see that 92.4.18.66 reports that Clannad have performed in Welsh. Is there any evidence for this? --Northernhenge (talk) 17:05, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

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