Talk:Clandestine chemistry

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[edit] Crank Case Etyology

This is most likely a Urban Myth\Foly Etymology. It lacks verifiability and there are numerous variations on the theme ie. is the crankcase a hiding place or a reaction vessel? Is it a motorcycle crankcase or a truck crankcase? The Historical Dictionary of American Slang has "crank" back to 1969, but the "crankcase" explanation did not appear until 1995 (S.F. Chronicle, "The Kiss of Meth", 8/27/95). Overall I think it is more likely that it is called crank because it "cranks" up the user.

Holme053 20:39, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] MDMA production

I forgot to mention this in the comment line of my edit so I will place it here. I removed the words "in theory" from the note about mdma synthesis from safrol or other plant sources. There is no debate over whether or not naturally occuring oils can provide the precursers for mdma. In fact, it is fairly common for small scale labs to obtain their safrol from sassafras oil. It is for this reason that sassafras oil is a watched chemical in the US.

Foolishben 21:50, 15 December 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Uncle Fester as a source

By whom is Uncle Fester considerd a source of not-so-good resource for illegal drug manifacture ?

If you will check out alt.drugs.chemistry, you will see that much of the clandestine drug syntheses world has mixed feelings about Fester. His research is adapted from US Patents and Journal Articles, so some of his information is faulty. When reading his books, you can see what information is gold and what information is questionable; the good information he presents is what he has extensive personal experience with, while the questionable information is just stuff he read in US Patents and Journal Articles. You can see examples in his Secrets of Methamphetamine Manufacture book, half of it is stuff he has done himself, and is able to explain rather extensively, but some other syntheses in that book are somewhat unexplained. Two other examples are his Home Workshop Explosives book and Practical LSD Manufacture book. In Home Workshop Explosives, he details how to synthesize nitroglycerin; which he does exceedingly well. His instructions for many of the explosives in that book are dead-on accurate to the finest detail. In Practical LSD Manufacture, however, he has no experience whatsoever with LSD syntheses, and all of the writing is based off of extensive reading he has done -- needless to say, Practical LSD Manufacture was not a well-recieved book by underground drug chemists.

[edit] Methamphetamine Lab Seizures in the US data wrong?

Where's that data got from, DEA site states different readings; see: [1] Anyway, I'm making nice SVG graph from the DEA site's data, if it is correct. --Jannev 18:42, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Here's the chart if you want to use it:

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jannev (talk • contribs) 19:16, 11 April 2007 (UTC).

(And a div so it doesn't break the next section heading. ⇌Elektron 12:39, 24 September 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Move article?

How does everyone feel about moving this article to something like Drug laboratory, Clandestine laboratory, Clandestine drug laboratory, etc.? --Daniel11 11:30, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Not unless you have a good reason to move it. I think it's fine where it is — I suspect "clandestine chemistry" is the most common name for it. "Drug laboratory" is the wrong name — it sounds more like a pharmaceutical lab. ⇌Elektron 12:32, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why is AIDSvideos.org's Meth script cited as a source?

There is what appears to be a footnote on this page, right below the table of meth lab seizure data, citing a script at AIDSvideos.org as the source. This appears to be an error. If you look at the cited script, it doesn't include lab seizure data. Please edit this page to either assign the citation to a fact that is in fact stated in my script or remove the citation. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.6.223.173 (talk) 21:52, 20 October 2007 (UTC)