Talk:Clan Gregor

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[edit] Clan ties and bloodlines

Hello. My name is Raechel Bundy, and even though my last name is Bundy, But I have blood of an Macgregor in my vains.( Mother side.) It gives me pride to know that I'm part of the clan. And a clan is a group of family. And there is a actor with the last name MacGregor like my clan. But he is not blood related. It confuses me that we have the same name and not be related. And its a clan a BLOOD relating family. I whear the MacGregor crest around my neck, that I haved ever since i could remeberd. And I have never taken it off, since it was given to me by my grand mother.(She's married to a Mac.)If anyone knows why he has the same name. Email me at S'R_5_MacGregor@yahoo.com

Hi Raechel. It would probably help to consider your Clan as more of an extended family, rather than your blood relatives. Many clans got quite large, and not everyone knew eachother. My name is Sime, which means "son of Simon." I'm descended from Scots of the Clan Fraser, on my Grandmother's side, much like you are from MacGregors. I've recently met up with many other Frasers who live in my area, and they really do treat eachother like family. However, this is widely not the case in America today.
I've never received anything other than a warm welcome from my fellow MacGregors here in America! SMaj
While the actor of whom you speak may very well be a descended from the same clan as you, not all clans have held strong through the ages. He might not care about his clan ties. Canaen 07:22, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mac and Mc

Both names are the same clan. Perhaps link Clan McGregor to this article?

The Race is my Royal - The Royal is my Race (Underneath Crest, Lion). Which one is correct? Thanks 88.107.81.13 16:57, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Clan MacGregor tartan corrections

My name is Ian MacGregor and I edited the Clan MacGregor article to add information about our clan tartans. This information is publicly available and was written by Sir Malcolm MacGregor, Chief of Clan Gregor. Ardchoille42 05:23, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Clan Gregor vs Clan MacGregor

Greetings my fellow MacGregors! I was wondering if it might be more accurate to title the page Clan Gregor as our society is named. Clan MacGregor is redundant, isn't it? SMaj

I'm very concerned with what appeared to be a unilateral move of this page. There was no discussion here other than this one unsigned question. While I understand the concept of the question, I have always seen and heard "Clan MacGregor" or "the MacGregor clan". Not only that, I feel that MacGregor has more popular recognition than simply "Gregor", and all references to MacGregor appeared to have been removed. I'm all for Being Bold, but this seems a bit extreme (but totally Good Faith - not alleging otherwise). Can we have some discussion on this? I'm not a definitive expert by any means, but this absolutely should have been discussed at length before being done. VigilancePrime 05:00, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
I moved the article to Clan Gregor because officially the clan is known as Clan Gregor. Simple as that. The clan societies in the external links are also named Clan Gregor. The chief is Sir Malcolm Gregor Charles Mac Gregor of Mac Gregor, 7th BT, of Lanrick and Balquhidder, 24th Chief of Clan Gregor. And as to the move being premature, that question was raised by someone on July 31. Sorry to have confused you, check out the links to the societies.--Celtus 05:11, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Makes sense; as I said, "concerned," not upset or anything. I think this is fine for explaining it; I was looking for this prior. I think that the opening sentence could include a parenthetical such as "(sometimes referred to as Clan MacGregor)" or similar. Later there's a line "The MacGregors..." and it could be confusing to readers if the Gregor-MacGregor synonymity isn't prior explained. I'm just a simple person and think that would help us simple people understand, ya know? I appreciate your answering so quickly (and clearly!), thanks. :-) VigilancePrime 05:39, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
I should have made a post here on the talk page with the reason why i thought the article should be moved. I wasn't thinking, sorry. I think you're right about making the article clearer, adding (sometimes referred to as Clan MacGregor) or something similar would help, i'll leave it to you, and anything else that'll make the article stronger. Cheers.--Celtus 05:50, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
No problem at all, Celtus! I totally understand and myself have been accused (rightly, I might add, sometimes) of Being Bold without letting anyone know and then getting questioned on it. In the end, we all can have a good laugh about it and be happy and satisfied that the article is, in the end, better than it was beforehand, right? 'S Rioghal Mo Dhream! VigilancePrime 06:17, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

Hello my name is Douglas Stevenson Szyman/Hughes and I have a request of you all. I am looking for the full garb for St. Pats day so I can march with the rest of my family of various descents in St. Paul, MN. does anyone have any ideas as of where I can get the most fit gear for this? Email me please @ Intelligence385@yahoo.com please? and thank you in advance. I may have gotten somthing terminal.... and I want this pretty much as my last outting.

Douglas Stevenson. (the rest is american brother). 1/16/08

   " Man does not live by words alone, despite the fact that sometimes he has to eat them."
Adley Stevenson  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.172.212 (talk) 02:42, 17 January 2008 (UTC) 

[edit] Sects

Hello. an Orr and Nickel here, both sides with minor ties to the Gregor clan. Anyways, I edited the Septs section. Corrected some really bad usage of the columns tag that caused the rest of the article to be unreadable. Also moved extraneous reference tags to the header of each sept sup-section. What I noticed is that there seems to be an extra sub-section. The first subsection seems to be older than the second but they appear to be the same list. If someone wants to remove one and synch it up with the reference please do so, but please make sure the article is formatted well afterwards before saving. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.134.185.184 (talk) 13:20, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Someone went way overboard on the names. The list is taking up half the article. Only the septs should be listed, not every last surname possibly connected (in any way) to the clan.--Celtus (talk) 05:09, 14 May 2008 (UTC)