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his father is Turk then he is Turk, and could you pls show me the place called Kurdistan in a legal map? (in fact it is claim of pkk ( a terrorist group killed 35 000 people)). BTW kurdish is a sub-language of Turkish. and kurdstan is

check it out : Kurdistan

ur claim that 'kurdish is a sub language of turkish' just shows how POV u r anyways. I'm reverting to my version since all u're adding is political propaganda.

btw also check out Kurdish language and u'll see kurdish is a language on its own, and has nothing to do with turkish. Soapyyy 23:49, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

btw Cigerxwîn is Kurdish not turkish, as stated on Cigerxwîn's page, and Ciwan Haco's grandfather is a Kurd not a turk as u claim, since Mardin is a Kurdish-populated city - if the fact that Ciwan Haco speaks in the Kurdish language wasn't enough for u. Soapyyy 23:55, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Kurdistan is an aim of PKK terorist group,The PKK is listed as a terrorist organisation internationally by a number of states and organisations, including the USA and the EU[1].

There is no country called Kurdistan in any 'LEGAL' map. There is no unique language called Kurdish. It is a generalisation of Kurmanji, Gorani, Hewrami, Zazaki dialects. Which differs small amount from Turkish. Every Turk may understand all of those languages easily as he might understand nothern part dialects. That's for sure.

Ciwan Haco's grandfather is a Turk since he was holding Turkish citizenship not Kurdistan. Besides Mardin is a not Kurdish city since it's in Turkey's borders in all legal maps. If your are saying "There is a country called Kurdistan and a nation called Kurdish", that means you are about to add covert propaganda, not me. Since these are PKK's speech. Plz be more carefull about topics that caused death of more than 30000 people.

I suggest you read the article Kurdistan more thoroughfully

also read Kurdish

your claim that turkish people can understand kurdish is ridiculous. Ciwan Haco is a Kurd, he speaks and sings in Kurdish and he was born in Western Kurdistan and therefore held Syrian citizenship not turkish. if you don't stop POV-pushing I'll refer to an admin. Soapyyy 06:19, 26 July 2006 (UTC)