Talk:Civilization (board game)

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Can we include images of the board since it is out of print? Or are they still a no-no? -Frecklefoot

Whether a work remains in print has no legal bearing on its copyright status. - Stellmach 14:50, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Author

I think there is a problem with the author's name link ! 82.122.183.173 16:51, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Heh, must be more than one person with the same name... Stan 17:27, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] POV

"Civilization's history is a bit twisted and ironic" seems blatantly POV to me. If you disagree please revert my deletion. 216.59.243.54 21:43, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Damnit, wasn't logged in. That comment and the change by the same IP addresses were me: HarrisX 21:45, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sid Meier's Computer Game

The section titled history contains a significant amount of information about Sid Meier's computer game to warrant it's own article (if it doesn't already exist). I will create it or move it there if nobody objects. I realize that the computer game was far more popular than the board game it was based on, but, as a loyal fan of the original game, I can honestly say that seeing the history of the computer game in this article is a slap in the face to the board wargame crowd. Anyone else feel the same way? MiracleMat 21:33, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

I agree. --Jcbutler 16:08, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
The article states that Sid Meier was a fan of the board game - in fact he developed the computer game entirely independently from the board game, with the name evolving out as development continued. This section ought to be rewritten to reflect the true connection between the two Civs. See History of Civilization

[edit] Incunabula Computer Game

Interestingly this article doesn't reference Incunabula at all, even though that game is the original computer version of Avalon Hill's Civilization. Right down to the trading rounds.XC0000005 10:50, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

We don't have an article on it. It should be mentioned even if it creates a broken link. — Frecklefoot | Talk 17:03, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
Done (and I see you've edited it already. :)). Playing through Incunabula again it's clear that while it's closer than Civilization, it's not the "perfect" reproduction of the board game. The concepts, movement rules, cities, ships, combat, trading and alliances are pretty much the same. The choices of rule are somewhat different. The technology aspect is completely missing. The game is won on trade. Still it clearly bears the influence of the civ board game and attempts to replicate much of it.XC0000005 19:30, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FreeCiv

Why include a link to FreeCiv in this article?

Because it's based of of SidCiv, which isn't what this article is about?
Hmm. I note that this article claims that that Meyer's game is based off of Tresham's game. I could believe that it inspired SidCiv, but given the vast differences between them, I wouldn't believe anything more without, say, a quote from Sid Meyer. Can anyone provide a source for that assertion? --Rindis 20:13, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Hmm, just realized you might have meant 'why are we', instead of 'why don't we'. So: Good question, why do we include a link to FreeCiv? --Rindis 20:56, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Editions

It should be pointed out that there are two versions existing: the original Hartland Trefoil/Avalon Hill version, on which Advanced Civilization is based, and the Gibson Games license product, which has simplified rules and is identical to many versions in different languages.

What rules are 'simplified' in the Gibson version?
As far as i am aware, they are the same game
chrisboote 12:23, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Civilization & Civilization

I just read the Sid Meier interview on Gamasutra.

I deleted the entire history section and added a paragraph onto the Legacy section noting the connection between the two Civs.

I also deleted the wikilink to Freeciv since that isn't based on the board game.

Also, should there a separate article for computer game adaptation? How about leaving any info about it in the computer game series article? The references to the adaptation should be separate from the original Civilization board game.--CRiyl 10:11, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sid Meier's Civilization (computer & board games)

These games are distantly inspired by this game, but no more. They can be mentioned in the Legacy setting, but I'm cleaning out any other references, particularly links to the Sid Meier Civ board game, which is a completely different game with no bearing at all upon the game discussed in this article. CapnZapp (talk) 05:40, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Civ Exp project

This should not feature in the expansions section. I've retained the link, but that's enough attention we should give a completely unofficial fan-based project. CapnZapp (talk) 05:42, 9 May 2008 (UTC)