Talk:City of London/Archive 1
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nitpicking
More nitpicking: the link to the City of London is actually a link to The Corporation of The City of London, the public body which governs the City. (Sorry.) -- Robert Brook
Don't nitpick; Edit! :-) Thom2002 18:35, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Voting in the City
25 wards - elect one alderman and the rest common councilmen. There are 4 predominantly residential wards - Aldergate, Cripplegate, Portsoken and Queenhithe. Each ward returns between 4 and 12 members. Only 6 wards were contested in 2002. The lowest vote received to be elected was 11.
Corporate voters:
Based on workforce on 1st September 2003.
if less than 9 employees - 1 vote up to 50 employees - 1 vote for every 5 employees more than 50 employees - 10 voters, and one additional per extra 50 employees
if an organisation has more than one office each office has votes - even if they are in the same ward (as long as they are not physically linked)
Qualifying bodies are:
any incorporated or unincorporated body includes churches, hospital trusts. Need to physically occupy premises in the city.
The business vote is approx 26,000, there are approx 6,000 residential voters.
The above should be a page not a talk page!
Temple
In what sense are inner and middle temples separate enclaves in the City = I don't think they are but am not totally sure? one could equally say that St Pauls is a separate enclave or the Barbican is a separate enclave.
- In the sense that they are independent. [1] says that 'any reference to a London borough includes a reference to the City of London, which for this purpose shall be taken to include the Inner Temple and the Middle Temple;' which means that ordinarily the city of london would not include the inner and middle temples. Morwen 20:25, Feb 1, 2004 (UTC)
True or false??
True or false: there is a difference between this article and London, England. 66.245.6.21 23:58, 27 May 2004 (UTC)
- True. London, England redirects to London, which is an article about the city of London as a whole (see that article for details of what that means. This article is about a small area within London, confusingly known as the City (of London) for historical reasons. Pete/Pcb21 (talk) 00:06, 28 May 2004 (UTC)
- Pcb21 is right - it's true, very true, and an important, though initially confusing distinction. All the London articles do try to make this clear. For example if you look at the populations given in the first paragraphs of the two articles you are comparing, you get 7,000 vs. 7,000,000! :) If you are here, and you say The City, you mean the little bit in the middle. Nevilley 07:30, 28 May 2004 (UTC)
The article seems to imply that The City of London is part of Greater London, which I was always lead to believe it actually isn't - rather Greater London in an administrative county which includes all of the London Boroughs but excludes the City itself.
Of course, I mean this in a political sense rather than a literal sense - in that that the Corporation of London and the Greater London Authority are two separate entities governing two entirely separate areas (the Mayor of London and the GLA having no authority over the City of London whatsoever). They are, of course, all part of the same conurbation in practical terms.
- And you have been led to believe wrongly. John Biggs is the GLA memebr for City & East with covers the City of London. On matters of strategic importance (including for, example, large and tall buildings) the Mayor of London (ie head of the GLA, not the Lord Mayor) has the final say. Icundell 23:16, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Exclaves
Aren't the parks and suchforth owned by the City just that - parks in other boroughs owned by the City? Who is responsible for granting planning permission here, for example. Morwen - Talk 09:15, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
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- The parks outside the City which the Corporation own are not exclaves but simply property that the Corporation owns. Planning permissions go to the borough councils that cover the parks. This applies to the bridges the Corporation owns too (Millennium Bridge for example), except for Blackfriars and London bridges - these two are under the control of the City of London 1. David
Status
Why is it marked sui generis? josh (talk) 19:55, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
- because the City of London cannot be classified. It is unlike any other UK district. MRSC 06:25, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
- But its classified as a city and cerimonial county the same as Bristol. josh (talk) 17:44, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
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- It has that status and more. See: Corporation of London. MRSC 17:48, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
Sport in London
- As London has more professional football teams than any other city in the world, why are only the sides in "The we're alright jack league" listed? Lion King 05:19, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Map
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Added because a request for a more detailed map has been up at Requested_and_orphan_maps for some time. I did a quick search but didn't find anything that wouldn't be a copy vio.
Rollercoaster
Where's London rollercoaster no images of them here in Wikipedia
LIfe in the City of London
One thing not addressed in this article is what it is like to be in the City of London or to live in it. Unfortunately I don't have time to write such a section at the moment, but here are some thoughts:
It is incredibly quiet at weekends. Eerily so, some might say. I'm pretty sure that the video to The Specials' song Ghost Town was shot in the City early on a Sunday morning (the actual song was in all likelihood about life in Coventry).
There was a very interesting documentary on BBC Radio 4 a few years ago about life in the Barbican complex, a high-rise housing estate built and (largely) owned by the Corporation. While many of the people who live there are wealthy financial folk, not all of them are. Some residents receive housing benefit (a means-tested rent subsidy) from the Corporation as they would from any other UK local authority. The Barbican is probably the only place in central London where you stand a chance of living a quiet life. Many of the Barbican apartments were sold off as an unforseen consequence of Maggie Thatcher's forced sale of council housing.
The Barbican Centre is a world class arts venue, but it is also a place where the City provides some services to its residents, such as a public library. - Ireneshusband 20:29, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Buisiness vote
Could someone make an article explaining the business vote in City of London? I don't really understand what this involves. Kernow 19:07, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Royal Access
Its staed here [2] that the queen would have had to ask persmission to enter the city, and body know how that would have happened?
- I don't have any external sources, but my understanding, backed up to by WP's Temple Bar, London and Lord Mayor of London articles, is that that is a misunderstanding of the true nature of the situation. The Monarch (way back when) would stop at Temple Bar, but was not actually asking permission to enter. Still, historically the Lord Mayor was exceedingly powerful. --SiobhanHansa 01:01, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
The Queen would stop at the entrance to the city, most notably Temple Bar, where she would be received by the Lord Mayor of London, in the same way that she is received by the Lord-Lieutenants in the counties. There he would offer to her his Sword of State in a show of loyalty. She would not be asking permission as she has control of the City. See Lord Mayor of London SGoat 14:02, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
The City in numbers
The current article is very much about the history, demographics, government, etc but very little about what the City is about today. The bullet points give a quick insight. It balances out the article. Of course it could also be written as a continuous text. I though some bullet points showing some numbers are more pleasant to read and avoid the risk of original research.JGG 10:41, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
- I think that such lists are not in keeping with proper style (though it's nice information). They should be redistributed into appropriate encyclopedic paragraphs. --Eyrian 11:43, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
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- Well there are a lot of lists like that on Wikipedia. At least no risk to fall into the original researchtrap. Right now the article is too much about history, government and demographics. But I agree if someone wrote some text about the "city today", this list of numbers may become redundant. Of course, this is just one opinion. Any other opinions? 86.129.77.234 12:38, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Barts', the hospital is situated at Smithfield, London, and is about to undergo
How long shall Bart's be about to in an encyclopedia ? One has to find a formulation thats lasts - or to come back in less than one or two years. Thanks. -- DLL .. T 21:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Secondary of the City of London
What was/ is the Secondary of the City of London?Cutler 12:18, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
District
City is often referred to as a district in some senses so shouldn't this be mentioned? Simply south 11:45, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
