Talk:Citrus County, Florida
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[edit] The Islands
IMO, one of the larger attractions Citrus County has going for it, particularly to boaters and water-lovers. Citrus plays host to a totally unique island-belt that is well-known to area wather enthusiasts, but yet to really be "discovered" by the public at large. I believe the islands are perfectly suitable for mention in the county "attractions" heading- personally speaking, they're the only reason I ever go down there... --LoverOfArt (talk) 19:45, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- Please read the policy at Wikipedia:verifiability, and in particular the section on burden of evidence. Please do not insert that material again without citing one or more reliable published sources. -- Donald Albury 22:29, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
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- I'm sorry. Citing one or more reliable published sources that islands exist in Citrus county, some of which are private and some of which are public? Any map of the state of Florida should be enough to prove that such islands exist... Do you want me to link to the Citrus County BOCC page so people can determine which ones are public and which ones are private? You are making an absolutely horrendous interpretation of the verifiability clause- one that is entirely without merit and bears no legitimate corollary to what that clause was meant to address. You're doing that most frustrating wiki-tactic of throwing up rules and hoping no one notices that the rule you cited has nothing to do with the position you're taking. In reading over your talk page, it seems that you make this a habit, particularly with the WP:Verifiability clause.
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- If you'd like to seek mediation on this, I'd definitely be glad to have it. In the mean time, it's back up and will continue to be so. --LoverOfArt (talk) 03:13, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
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- The 'burden of evidence' policy states that you must cite reliable sources to re-insert the material. Take this to mediation, but leave the material out until this is resolved. -- Donald Albury 13:51, 2 February 2008 (UTC).
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- No, lets leave it up until it's mediated. You're basically saying that someone citing islands exist off the coast of Citrus County is something that requires an op-ed piece in order to be true. This isn't a matter of opinion, it's a matter of geography. I'll go ahead and link to a couple sources that prove that, indeed, islands do exist off the coast of Citrus County and that some of them are privately or publicly owned. --LoverOfArt (talk) 22:56, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
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- I have asked for someone else to look at this. -- Donald Albury 14:55, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
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(unindent) OK. I'd advise civility when handling these potential edit wars. WP:DISENGAGE if you need to. I've taken a look at the article, and it looks like the current revision looks slightly questionable, but less sketchy as it was before. However, a citation indicating partial private/public property would be nice. I do see the satellite mapping via the county office, which is a nice tool, but citing something involving something put in words would be better. Perhaps if you can isolate the public islands on the county office's parks and recreation website? If it is public property, I assume the associated cities or municipalities will publish the locations for their residents to relax like how some of the other cities in Florida do. Taking this discussion to mediation wouldn't be a bad idea if both of you are taking each other's comments personally, but it seems if providing a couple more sources citing these islands' private/public property lines, I really don't see what argument(s) could arise. (On a personal note, I really don't think it would be that hard) If either party decides to take it to mediation, I'll see what two cents I could chip in as a third party. Perhaps WP:EA might help until then? - Jameson L. Tai talk ♦ contribs 17:28, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
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- Thanks for your participation here. Apologies for being so late to reply. I am unaware of any external sources that delineate what Citrus County islands are private, what islands are public, what sections of certain islands are private (for example, Sportsmans Island that is largely undeveloped yet almost entirely private and broken down into lots)- or the even bigger question, what islands are actually made up of solid land versus what islands are made up of nothing more than mangrove and snakes. There is no question that the islands are indeed a mix of private and public, I'm just unaware of any central source of information that says which is which. Unlike other places where the systems are ran efficiently, Citrus County is, well, how can I put this... A little on the "quaint" side with their management style. --LoverOfArt (talk) 20:03, 14 April 2008 (UTC)