Talk:Citigroup Center
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There seem to be some instances where opinion is presented instead of a NPOV. For example (highlighted in bold):
- That same year, Chase Manhattan Bank, First National's chief rival, opened its mammoth new headquarters, designed by Skidmore, Owings & Merrill, downtown, forever changing, for the worse, Lower Manhattan's romantic skyline.
- The Chase tower, however, was far better architecturally than 399 Park Avenue because of its great plaza with its sculptural tree by Dubuffet and its sunken rock garden and fountain by Isamu Noguchi and its overall, piered design.
- At first glance, the form and texture of the church appears a bit ungainly and perhaps it might have been more attractive if it had been clad in the same material as the tower, or even better, a chrome-colored surface.
I think the article would be improved if sentences such as these were either removed, or modified to represent a neutral point of view.
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[edit] Article Text Taken Word for Word from an Outside Website
I did a Google search on the text of this article, and found that most of it is taken word for word from the following site:
http://www.thecityreview.com/citicorp.html
[edit] Much (or all) stolen text removed
I deleted the stuff that was stolen from http://www.thecityreview.com/citicorp.html, which also had major NPOV problems (since it was written for a totally different purpose).
[edit] Article Taken Turn for Worse
It is too bad that this article has gone down, although not as bad as when the City Review stuff was added. The photos of the ground floor are gone, and the general tone of the article still has a "point of view" in it. Too bad.(Gary Joseph 18:38, 19 February 2006 (UTC))
Dinosnake 01:55, 8 May 2006 (UTC) Added details of chevron functionality, clarified failure mode of building and specified construction changes were cause of problem, not LeMessurier's original design - Dinosnake, 7 May 2006
[edit] Lipstick building?
I don't think that this building is nicknamed the lipstick building. I believe that someone has confused the facts - the lipstick building, to my knowledge, is the lower, stacked, oval-shaped, red-granite building seen in the foreground of the Citi-corp picture (designed by architect Phillip Johnson)... perhaps someone could verify this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.193.167.51 (talk) 15:31, 18 March 2007 (UTC).
[edit] LeMessurier's Name
Where is LeMussurier's Name? The Citicorp tower is almost synonymous with his name because he designed it and blew the whistle on himself the moment he saw it to be failing. Disaster is also known about the citicorp tower. No mention in this article.
[edit] Damper
'it is a concrete block that slides on a thick layer of oil and converts the kinetic energy of the building into friction' - I think this might be a bit of a misleading description, it is certainly not how I understand a tuned mass damper to work but I have no specific knowledge of this building, can anybody shed light? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.133.14.96 (talk) 11:25, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Citation Needed
The line in the last paragraph discussing the engineering crisis, specifically the part about it being one of the most structurally sound buildings inthe world, can be found in The New Yorker article The 59 Story Crisis that is linked at the bottom of the page. The quote can be found at the end of the fifth-to-last paragraph of the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.112.146.199 (talk) 22:23, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Ramones
The Ramones song references 53rd and 3rd, not 53rd and 4th where this building is situated. Though, I can imagine that one block may not make much of a difference and "53rd and 3rd" may have been chosen for lyrical reasons (to the extent that the Ramones could be considered "lyrical").63.111.32.66 (talk) 19:05, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
