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We had two gas stations in LaFayette named Golden Gallon. They sold Citgo fuel. They are now Kangaroo Express and sell Amoco fuel. PrometheusX303 00:05, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure how to get the reference link working. I want to make that [1] next to the Sept 2006 news bring the page down to the external link section for the article I cited.


With the recent issues bewteen the US and Venezuela, it may be a good idea to protect this page from editing. Jon Darden

Agreed. CodeNaked 20:08, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 7-Eleven

The claim that Chavez's UN Speech is a "major factor" in the 7-Eleven policy change is unsubstantiated. The break just happened at a time that allowed 7-11 to capitalize on current events to garner some good PR, as explained by the reference at the AP. CodeNaked 20:19, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

I edited out the offending sentence and tried to insert one that was balanced and clear. I used that great CNN article as a reference. Good?

The A.P. quoted a named spokeswoman (Margaret Chabris) saying that "7-Eleven officials said Wednesday that the decision was partly motivated by politics" (in the A.P. article quoted.) Joseph 15:07, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

The original article goes on to explain that the PR representative is doing what PR representatives do--spinning and posturing to gain favor with the public. CodeNaked 15:36, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
And this article plainly states that there is NO relationship between Chavez's rhetoric and the policy change: "7-Eleven Inc. said on Wednesday the war of words between Venezuela's leftist government and the Bush administration had no part in its decision to drop gasoline supplier Citgo Petroleum Corp., which is owned by Venezuela's state oil company." CodeNaked 15:36, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
The A.P. article provides a direct quote from a named Citgo spokeswoman saying it was partly based on political statements by Chavez. The other articles don't contradict this (and if they would, both stories should be quoted, not a deletion of one of them.)
The other article DOES contradict that statement, and saying that it does not makes it obvious that you did not read both articles.
The first line reads, "7-Eleven Inc. said on Wednesday the war of words between Venezuela's leftist government and the Bush administration had no part in its decision to drop gasoline supplier Citgo Petroleum Corp., which is owned by Venezuela's state oil company."
Read on to the second sentence and you will learn that Ms. Chabris personally recanted her first quote. "The contract expires on Sept. 30, 7-Eleven spokeswoman Margaret Chabris said, and the decision was made long before Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez called U.S. President George W. Bush 'the devil' last week."
Both stories need not be cited if one of them is inaccurate. The first article is clearly inaccurate, judging by the more current article's retraction. CodeNaked 16:24, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
I put in Chabris quote (both.) It does not seem to be a 'recanting', but nevertheless the article doesn't purport to indicate a strong position either way. It just provides the quote. Everyone should be satisfied with this.
The decision was made before Chavez' most recent attacks, but he had many times previously made anti-US attacks. Thats what the spokeswoman was saying (in her first comments) was partly why it didn't make Citgo prone to keep Citgo.
This is made clear by her saying that "Certainly Chavez's position and statements over the past year or so didn't tempt us to stay with Citgo." Her later statement doesn't recant that; it merely indicates that wasn't the sole (or perhaps primary) reason. But his statements over the past year os so certainly played a part in the reason. Qwertyqazqaz 16:50, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

This AP article [1] Venezuela's Citgo to stop gas sales to hundreds of U.S. stations - Jul 12 2006, contradicts the entire 7-Eleven entry. The repeated claim that 7-Eleven dropped the ball is highly questionable at best.

There appears to be intentional media deception at play with this story. Check out these two contradicting FOX news articles:
Citgo to Stop Selling Gas to 1,800 U.S. Stations - July 12, 2006

Citgo, which is wholly owned by Venezuela's state oil company, currently has to purchase 130,000 barrels a day from third parties in order to meet its service contracts at 13,100 stations across the U.S. This is less profitable than selling gasoline directly from its refineries. Instead, the Houston-based company has decided to sell to retailers only the 750,000 barrels a day that it produces at three U.S. refineries in Lake Charles, La., Corpus Christi, Texas and Lemont, Ill., according to a statement late Tuesday. That will mean that over the next year Citgo will cease distributing gasoline in 10 states and stop supplying some stations in four additional states, Citgo spokesman Fernando Garay said Wednesday.

7-Eleven to End Relationship with Venezuela-Backed Citgo - September 27, 2006

The second article (above) is full of misleading and contradictory statements, and it contains a great deal of unsourced editorial opinion.

The 7-Eleven entry has to be modified to show that Citgo dropped 7-Eleven on July 12/06, which was well before media sources made the contradictory claim that it was 7-Eleven that dropped Citgo. The news sources that contain misleading and unsourced editorial opinion should be dropped, or better yet, cited as examples of how a false story was manufactured and sold to the public.

Can someone point me to the nearest Citgo? It'll be my little way of prostesting against the Bush regime. Excuse me, I mean the Cheney regime (and his retarded flunky)... 65.69.81.2 15:12, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Redundant

This statement: "PDVSA is controlled by the Venezuelan government", seems redundant, as it states earlier that the company is Venezuela state owned. 69.95.208.155