Talk:Circular cause and consequence
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[edit] Removed Mergewith
Removed suggestion for { {mergewith|The chicken or the egg} }; no substantial progress in the discussion in four months, and it seems to stand on its own. — Abb3w 03:36, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Removed Marx reference
I've removed the segment about "Crime is an integral phenomenon of the Capitalist society and its social injusticies. Since we do not have Capitalist society, we have no social injusticies and no crime either." This is not a circular argument, but rather a simple denying the antecedent in the form of "If A, B. Not A, therefore Not B" where A is "capitalist society" and B is "crime and social injustice". -- ShinmaWa(talk) 18:49, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Merge? (different page this time)
Does this differ from petitio principii AKA begging the question? 1Z
[edit] Catch 22 is not circular
Catch 22 is not a case of circular (chicken and egg) cause and consequence. It is not a problem of original cause, but of contradictory requirements. If it were, then we would ask whether insanity provoked the request or the request provoked the insanity. This is instead a paradox or contradiction in which the act of making the request proves that the the request is not justified. We need better examples, but this is not one. -Gomm 21:22, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
