Talk:Circulant matrix

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The page on Circulant Matrix is subject to do/undo/do/undo wars between those taking a Matrix Algebra view and those taking a Linear Systems Theory view. The latter are electrical engineers by training, while the former are computer programmers and numerical analysts. I belong with the programmers. Matrices love computers and computers love matrices. The linear systems approach of the electrical engineers is computer-unfriendly, obtuse, meritless, and dowdy. It dates from 1920s radio engineering, before the invention of computers. Since the electrical engineers are inured to it, they will continue to use it out of inertia. But an article about a circulant MATRIX should be done in MATRIX algebra, with matrix notation. Sean111111 21:08, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

No such edit war ensued until you started it!

The page before the "edit war" was adequate, and proved (up to a point) why the DFT was involved. Whilst it may not have been perfect, it was certainly better than the update, which offered no such "proof", was badly-formatted, and contained unencyclopedic phrases such as "This decomposition of C has got loads of practical applications" and "The greek letter ρ is called rho so it's good for denoting rhotation operations".

If you want to see the article move towards a matrix-style notation, please do it properly; any edits should be an improvement, not making the article worse.

P.S. computers don't love matrices any more than they love convolution. Claiming that "the linear systems approach of the electrical engineers is computer-unfriendly, obtuse, meritless, and dowdy" is completely unfounded. I hope that this won't cloud any further edits to the article that you may choose to.

Oli Filth 21:25, 11 July 2007 (UTC)