Talk:Cinema of Iran

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Moved Iranian Cinema back to Cinema of Iran to make it consistent with other countries. Jihg 09:11, Jan 14, 2005 (UTC)

This article needs a section on awards and recognitions won by the Iranian Cinema worldwide.--Zereshk 17:50, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

This article should be moved to Persian Cinema, because "Cinema of Iran" is no good title for an article that also deals with Persian films in Afghanistan and Tajikistan (and elsewhere). Tajik 23:28, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Reading the relevant sections closely, they are in fact about films made by Iranians in other countries, not about films made by Afghans and Tajiks. I tried to clarify that by renaming the section 'Iranian cinema and other Persian-speaking countries'. Probably a more concise wording could be found. Cop 633 20:22, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

I added a section on international recognition of Iranian cinema. Sangak 20:06, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Iranians and French new wave 2 Featured article 3 Good article/copyediting 4 Iranian films, foreign films and the Iranian box office 5 Fair use rationale for Image:Gaav.jpg 6 Fremde Haut 7 Zero Degree Turn 8 Fair use rationale for Image:Cinema kiarostami.jpg 9 Image copyright problem with Image:Children of heaven.jpg

[edit] Iranians and French new wave

I aksed for permission from the writer of the article used for this section. He kindly granted me the permission to use the info:

Yes please go ahead but please refer to my name in the publication.

I will be updating the article in a future publication I hope for payvand with new additions for instance Darius Khondji who is also half French.

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Sangak 09:58, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Featured article

Lets make this a featured article. Please post your suggestions as to how we can achieve FA status for this article. --Mardavich 15:35, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Good article/copyediting

I asked the team of copyeditors to help me improve this article. I collected considerable amount of info about Iranian cinema. At this stage the article will benefit from a detailed copyediting. Please help! Thanks. Sangak 20:13, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

• I am currently working in a complete editing of the article. The article is rather biased, especially at the beginning and the opening paragraph needs to be re-written. Because, honestly, as a serious foreign film fan I have never heard of Iran referred to "as the world's most important national cinema artistically". I think this sentence should be moved to a section titled Criticisms of POVs of critics.Charleenmerced ^Talk 17:39, 22 February 2007 (UTC)Charleenmerced

There's no mention of censorship, yet several important Iranian films have been banned in their own country, e.g. The Circle. In general the article seems slightly too concerned with 'promoting' post-revolutionary Iranian cinema as the greatest ever, and isn't mentioning the frustrations suffered by Iranian filmmakers who are critical of the government. I could add something on this but someone with more expertise should really do it. Cop 633 20:37, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I wrote a section about difficulties that Iranian filmmakers have encountered over the years. Please see here. It needs copyediting and perhaps shortenning. Sangak 12:15, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, post revolution Iranian cinema is the greatest ever (no doubt!), though I did not try to promote it. Sangak 12:34, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Nice work! (and sorry, I didn't mean to criticize the article that strongly, it's getting really good). I gave it a copyedit. Cop 633 15:10, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Do we have any info about why certain films are banned? E.g. why is Taste of Cherry banned, it seems pretty inoffensive to me. That would be interesting information for the article. Cop 633 00:03, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Just in case there is a hidden message in the films that escapes the government officials. When the films are not offensive they become more suspicious! Sangak 15:52, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Kiarostami explains: "I think they don't understand my films and so prevent them being shown just in case there is a message they don't want to get out."[1]Sangak 15:54, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Iranian films, foreign films and the Iranian box office

This article doesn't make it clear what kinds of films are most popular with Iranian audiences. Are home-grown films more popular than foreign films? Or is the Iranian box office dominated by foreign films? If so, what sort of foreign films? Are American and European films allowed to be screened in Iran? Or Bollywood films, perhaps? Although this article is about Iranian cinema, it would be useful to know how visible Iranian cinema is within Iran.Cop 633 21:00, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Western films are shown regularly by state TV (after some sensorship: deleting the sexual expressions etc). They are also special programs on channel 2 of the state TV where they regularly show western classics accompanied by some discussions by film critics. One can easily find DVDs of most recent western films (the original versions) on the market. However the box offices in cinema are dominated by commercial Iranian films. Films like "Snow man", "The lizard", etc were among bestsellers. Bollywood films has no place among Iranian film fans, as far as I know. Needless to mention that films by Iran`s top filmmakers like kiarostami, Panahi, Makhmalbaf are not screened officially in Iran. Finding the illegal DVDs on the market is not difficult though and they are not expensive. Sangak ^Talk 11:52, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, that's really helpful! I added a version of the above to the article, at the beginning of 'Contemporary Iranian Cinema'. Its needs checking, as I may have misunderstood things. In particular, do you mean that western films are shown on TV but not in cinemas? Cop 633 17:46, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I added some cited info to the "commercial cinema" section. Apparently I was right. Not a single indian or arab film has been screened in Iran over the last decade. 130 Iranian films along with 6-8 Hollywood films are screened in cinemas annually. Sangak ^Talk 16:38, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Gaav.jpg

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[edit] Fremde Haut

What about Fremde Haut? We should add it!--Sonjaaa 07:18, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Zero Degree Turn

Need an article on the 2007 Iranian soap opera Zero Degree Turn. Badagnani 06:13, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Cinema kiarostami.jpg

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