Talk:CIA transnational human rights actions

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There is an existing Central Intelligence Agency article that has grown to almost 300K, and needs to be split to be manageable. I have set up several geographic and functional subarticles into which content from the main article will go.

Do note that an Intelligence project/task force is being set up in Military History.

I request this not be deleted, as it is simply part of a series of an articles intended to deal with the problem of a single article that has grown far too large, interfering with browsers and making it difficult for multiple editors to work on different pieces. Howard C. Berkowitz (talk) 15:51, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Balance between this and linked article

Can we have a consensus about how much detail should be in this article versus "Extraordinary Rendition"?Howard C. Berkowitz (talk) 22:26, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed name change

This name is too cumbersome, and doesnot really fit Wikipedia guidelines on articles names. I suggest:

CIA human rights activities

Any objections? Any better suggestions? Ground Zero | t 04:47, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Again, the transnational aspect is essential. In South America, for example, there are interactions among Argentina, Honduras, and Colombia when it came to police abuse. The Congressional actions on the topic often are continental or worldwide in scope.

Assassinations and targeted killings also do not stop at national borders. Howard C. Berkowitz (talk) 05:08, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

How about:

CIA transnational human rights activities?

Ground Zero | t 18:25, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

This one is more tricky, because some of the activities violated human rights. Others supported them. I'm free-associating here, but the issue is more how the CIA interacted with human rights issues.

It's also an awkward section, although I still think a common thread runs through assassination, human experimentation without informed consent, licit or illicit police training, detention, etc. I haven't been able to think of a better name, because it's also not completely about violations -- some activities promoted human rights Howard C. Berkowitz (talk) 18:36, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

How about CIA transnational human rights actions? This could be broad enough to cover both violations and promotions. "Activities" does make it sound like only promotional activity. Ground Zero | t 12:50, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

That's much better. I'm smiling at the ambiguity of English, as I had thought of "activities" as "violations", which it does not mean but is still the way I perceived it. Thanks! Oh -- thanks for the diacritical marks on the French drug material -- I can handle diacritics for German, but that's about it beyond recognizing and copying them in other languages when I have an example.

Howard C. Berkowitz (talk) 13:53, 30 January 2008 (UTC)