Talk:Chwinamul

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[edit] Literal meaning

What is the literal meaning? Badagnani 08:07, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

It's apparently from a plant called "참취", true chwi, but I don't know what chwi means. --Kjoonlee 20:56, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Can you find out? It would be good to know. Badagnani 20:58, 4 November 2007 (UTC) Does this help?

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취-나물 「명」어린 참취 또는 그 잎을 삶아 쇠고기, 파, 기름, 깨소금 따위의 양념을 쳐서 볶은 나물. ¶깊고 높은 산속 그늘의 비옥한 부엽토에서 자란 부드러운 취나물 무침에 밥을 맛있게 먹었다.≪서정인, 철쭉제≫§

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Badagnani 21:00, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Since the dictionary doesn't include Hanja for 취나물, I guess we can assume 취 is a native word (or morpheme) for 참취 and related plants. --Kjoonlee 21:03, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

What is the genus/species of 참취? Is it Aster? Badagnani 21:07, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

According to The National Academy of Korean Language, [1], the term was originated from an ancient word referring to chaeso (채소, vegetables), or namul and there is no evidence that chwi was originated from hanja terms like chae (채 菜), or chwi (취 臭). Chwi is a kind of chrysanthemum and Korean native chwi are over 100. Edible chi namul are also over 60 species but among them only 10 are commonly eaten as chwinamul such as gomchwi, chamchwi, surichwi, etc. --Appletrees 21:20, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

‘취’는 ‘나물’, ‘채소’에 대한 옛 우리말로 한자 ‘채(菜)’나 ‘취(臭)’에서 비롯하였다고 볼 근거는 없습니다. 현재는 국화과의 여러해살이 풀인 ‘곰취’, ‘단풍취’, ‘수리취’, ‘참취’ 따위를 통틀어 이르는 말로 <표준국어대사전>에 올라 있습니다. ‘개미취’에서 ‘개미’의 어원 역시 불분명한 것 같습니다.

Badagnani, you're right. Chwinamul is one of Aster scaber under Aster. [2] --Appletrees 21:26, 4 November 2007 (UTC)