Talk:Chuanr

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[edit] Propose Rename to Chuan

Do we really need the 'r'? It's only indicative of the erhua of Northern Mandarin speech, and in standard Mandarin it's simply Chuan. Also, surely the dish is best known as Yangrouchuan? Just a thought. InfernoXV 06:28, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

True -- the R is only indicative of erhua, but that's the predominant dialect of Beijing, Tianjin, and the general northeastern region. In fact, in Tianjin, it sounds like ChuaRR (think pirate-speak). However, renaming the article or redirecting might be a good idea. At the very least, a redirect from Chuan for this article is a good idea. Kaerondaes (talk) 18:23, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Is that 'proper' (Han) Chinese food?

My impression is that it is a type of "ethnic minority cuisine" but never quite Han Chinese food, and overseas, Chinese cuisine specifically refers to traditional food eaten by Han Chinese. Dare I say, to be offensive in the Chinese POV but absolutely correct in the Western definition, that this is not quite Chinese food unless accepted by Han Chinese. --JNZ (talk) 06:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Um. It's become quite assimilated and a common part of food from the northeast (Dongbei). The Han Chinese there now merrily eat it without often thinking of its Turkic origins, and indeed, the flavourings have been modified for Han tastes. Also, a much wider range of skewered items (including pork and vegetables) is eaten by the Chinese as Chuanr than was originally the case when it was merely kewap or kebab. InfernoXV (talk) 08:00, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I'll second that. Chuanr (especally yangrou chuanr) are a staple snack for hanren these days, especially as bar food. You can't throw a rock in a bar district of Beijing (like Sanlitun) without hitting a Hui vendor on the sidewalk grilling these.Rpine75 (talk) 03:43, 7 June 2008 (UTC)