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[edit] archived

The following are archived discussions made between January 4, 2007 and January 3, 2008.

[edit] Uruguayan

The dictionary lists Uruguay has being pronounced "yur uh gway." So yes, it is now an English word that follows English pronunciations and English grammar (we say Uruguayan and not uruguayo, for example). Are we expected to pronounce France as "Fronce" (French pronunciation)? I mean, after all it is not an English word as you suggest. Also, be mindful of the three-revert rule. Thanks for your understanding. --Chris S. 03:37, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

"Uruguay … is … an English word"
"France … is not an English word"
It seems you get to pick and choose what is and isn't an English word? :p Uruguayan is of course a completely different word. Don't waste my time with your nonsense, please. ¦ Reisio 18:38, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

You've misunderstood; please note that I said as you suggest. Under your reasoning, France wouldn't be an English word. But in reality both France and Uruguay are. Hope this clarifies things. :-D --Chris S. 19:36, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

No, you saying France and Uruguay are English words doesn't clarify things...particularly when they're both not English words. :p ¦ Reisio 19:58, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Eskayan

Hey Chris, Piers made new revision/s, albeit the much needed overhaul at last, on the language. Please check. Is it possible for you to help with the infobox template? Cheers! --Pinay (talk•email) 17:35, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Salamat!

Salamat Chris. Ang galing! How exciting! Gusto ko na i incorporate sa articles. Hmmmm. The other towns are Bilar, Batuan and Sierra Bullones - (see Legislation), though lesser concentration than first 3: Carmen, Sagbayan and Batuan. Thank you uli. Ate --Pinay (talk•email) 10:23, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Korek ka dyan. Salamat...Yehey! Paki check nga kung puede na mag GA? Yan lang hintay ko, e. I owe it to you...--Pinay (talk•email) 23:15, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
La ko pakialam sa General American ha...Good article lang...<--pls edit that with wiki links...LoL --Pinay (talk•email) 01:44, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] magkailhanay

superficially, yes, it is to meet. But it's more than just to meet - it is also to get to know each other, to get to know each other better, to get acquainted, to be "involved", to get closer, to interact on a more personal level, etc. know what i mean? msg if no gets. Ate --Pinay (talk•email) 04:51, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

la, curious lang. y?--Pinay (talk•email) 05:03, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
See if this helps. Ate--Pinay (talk•email) 05:32, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] cross-checking

Chris, paki check mo nga kung tama ang edit na ginawa from my last edit to this article. -i feedback mo 'ko, key? Salamat. --Ate Pinay (talk•email) 08:16, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] maps

Chris, pahabol, pahingi naman nang locator map ng Bohol sa Philippine map - pretty much like the one in Philippine Tariser, kaso ang na shade lang ang Bohol...Salamat ha? 'La ba same color for blank Bohol map? Ate --Pinay (talk•email) 22:40, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Blank Bohol map? please give me link...Sana yong white tulad nang sa blank ng Pilipinas...--Pinay (talk•email) 06:32, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Kung puede pahingi ng naka color ang Bohol dito sa Philippine map na binigay mo sa akin. Ang hanap ko sa Bohol, yong tulad niyan na white n gray lang...--Ate Pinay (talk•email) 07:39, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Eskaya peer review

Paki review naman o...Ate --Pinay (talk•email) 22:40, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Okey lang. Kasabot ko, Chris. Sige lang. --Ate Pinay (talk•email) 07:39, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Award

For creating the Chocolate Hills and Philippine Tarsier locator maps, this Graphic Designer's Barnstar is awarded to Chris S - from --Ate Pinay (talk•email) 05:37, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Chris, you deserve it. Actually, I had approached a lot for several weeks na, at walang positive response. Sa yo lang ako naka kuha ng maps, just when nawalan na ako ng pag-asa pa. Nag to the rescue ka! Ke low talent or high, YOU CERTAINLY DESERVE IT...nga pala, please comment kung puede na mag WP:GA ang dalawang articles, o may kailangan pa. Suggest lang. Salamat kaayo...-- Ate Pinay (talk•email) 07:39, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
BTW, Chris, kung malaman ko na ang delineation ng Diocese of Tagbilaran and Diocese of Talibon, both of Bohol, I will need just one more map. Sana okey pa. --Ate Pinay (talk•email) 07:53, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Ba't ang bilis mo! nandiyan ang inspirasyon mo 'no! Nagka ilhanay na mo? LoL...Thank you much! --Ate Pinay (talk•email) 07:58, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Ang liit lang ng Bohol! I feel soooo small!!! LoL! --Ate Pinay (talk•email) 08:00, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
E, yong locator map ng Eskaya? ayaw mo na rin...--Ate Pinay (talk•email) 08:14, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Say what??? pina-bilib mo naman ako sa 'yo! di na kailangan dahil fans club mo na ako! LoL! Salamat ha? MABUHI KA!--Ate Pinay (talk•email) 08:47, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
E, yong project Gutenberg.ph...gusto mo i intro ka? --Ate Pinay (talk•email) 08:47, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] You got email!

check...--Ate Pinay (talk•email) 09:07, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] YM chat/conference re LH

I am trying to set this up. Sent invites to Zscout, Titopao, you and me...don't know of others who can join...thoughts? or we can set a specific time. --Ate Pinay (talk•email) 22:28, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

conference on going...pleas join us. invite sent to ur aol acct--Ate Pinay (talk•email) 02:55, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
when u got time, pls msg me. online in both YM and gmail now. let us talk...--Ate Pinay (talk•email) 01:42, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

For weighing into the malay debate - it was clear an admin was needed. SatuSuro 07:04, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] curious

Hi Chris. Di ko lang sure kung nabasa mo ito. Bakit nasabin nya'ng "outraged Linguist" ka? La lang. Curious lang kung what transpired between 2 people I brought together. Balita na lang...--Ate Pinay (talk•email) 21:29, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Surprised!

You surprised me...no need, 'tol! Just doing what I think is best for ALL of us!!! It's a pleasure working with all the young, dynamic, vibrant and cool breed of all! I LOVE YOU ALL!!!--Ate Pinay (talk•email) 23:43, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

No problem. Its getting pretty tiring handling the number people who seem to want to offer their own POV on the topic. Now the article is created and has some reasonable content to support its validity, I'm going to step away for a while. (Caniago 04:51, 26 January 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Portal:Bohol

Tol, baka puede mo kong tulungan nito. May practice ako dito[1] pero di pa ayos. May post sa Talk page ko from Howard the Duck. Leave me a message kung kayable, 'tol. Oks? --Ate Pinay (talk•email) 01:06, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] French Tagalog article

Hello! Someone modified the article Tagalog on the french Wikipedia and I'm not sure about the truth of this modification : Tagalog is "une langue" or "un dialecte" ? I wish you correct it, if necessary. Bouktin 23:08, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spanish language

Thanks for the full protection. --Howard the Duck 04:29, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Filipino Wikipedia

Sinubukan kong simulan sa incubator ang pagsulat ng mga artikulo para sa isang Wikipedya sa Filipino. Pwede mong basahin ’yung post ko sa Cebuano atTagalog tungkol dito. Just thought you might be interested. —Lagalag 10:07, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I can’t just create the pages before I register the project? I mean, I’m not in any real hurry to turn it into a fully independent Wikipedia. If I really need to call a vote and have it registered, however, then I will. I was actually thinking of doing so earlier today, but I couldn’t, given that the Incubator people are, according to the main page, “in the process of working out new-language and new-project policy which will affect both Incubator and Meta processes.”
I understand how Tagalog and Filipino look identical on the surface, but given active government policies, it seems that these two languages are now, innately, different, based on the standards they follow. Metro-Manila Tagalog would eventually end up looking quite different from how it does today (even actual texts are available locally, horrifying as they may look to me, but who am I to judge), and we can’t simply rename Tagalog, as a whole, as Filipino. (And people have already tried that in the Tagalog Wikipedia, and we both opposed that move.) Thing is, these two languages—Tagalog and Filipino—while, currently identical, are going on different paths. The path that Filipino is taking is different from that of Tagalog. It’s like two people who have, for their entire lives, had the same interests, the same fashion sense, the same view of the world, but one decided to live independently while the other stayed home with his folks and yaya relying on her to do the laundry, the dishes, etc. In a couple years there would be a marked difference of innate character between those two people just because of the decisions they made, even if they still dressed the same and continue to like the same things. The way I see it, the same thing is happening with Tagalog and Filipino (except that I’m not suggesting that one is better than the other).
Forgive me for going a bit philosophical there.
Give it a few weeks. If there really is no content that cannot be included in the Tagalog Wikipedia (or if all that’s ever done is content being copy/pasted from Wikipedias in other Philippine languages), we’ll shut it down before it’s even born. —Lagalag 14:50, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Daldal ko. To be more precise, I’m not sure whether Tagalog-speakers (and/or Tagalogs) are prepared to go the path that Filipino is taking, and have the government and society actively change their language just because its standardized counterpart has national language status. (Remember purism?) —Lagalag 15:32, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
I’ve given it much thought the whole afternoon and evening yesterday, and I’ve decided to discontinue the project habang maaga pa. The way things are going here in the Philippines, I guess Tagalog is destined to evolve from being a solely ethnic language into Filipino, with Tagalog-speakers seeming to go along with that prospect (seeing that the majority view Tagalog and Filipino as identical, despite what they’ve been taught in school). —Lagalag 09:52, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RIZAL'S ANCESTRY

Sundita, if you include the chinese character for name of the great-great-great- grandfather of Rizal, then include the japanese characters for Ursua, rizal's great-great grandfather who is a closer ancestor. Also patrilineal ancestry is less reliable than matrilineal ancestry. Example, Christ's ancestry is traced to Mary to King David. How can you be sure that Rizal was the son of Mercado, grandson of Lamco? His mother might have been impregnated by Spanish friar for all you know! Ancestry should ALWAYS be traced to mother's side--genealogists agree on this!!! Putting TOO MUCH EMPHASIS on Rizal's chinese ancestry denigrates his indigenous filipino ancestry (which is preponderantly Malayan). If you include his Chinese name in characters then include his Japanese ancestral name in Japanese characters too, and should include his Spanish ancestral and Negrito ancestral names, plus his ancestral roots to Lakandula. --URSUA is a japanese name, not spanish.

[edit] Bohol


Thank you for the help in making several Bohol-related topics good articles!
From: User:Pinay06

[edit] some help please

Hi there Chris S. I noticed that you are an administrator here in Wikipedia and a Filipino as well. I'll be grauduating elementary this coming March 18, 2007, and since my principal will be computing my extra-curricular activities in and out of the school they'll be requesting certificates of my extra-curricular activities/achievements outside of my school. Could I ask you to do the following for me?

1. I would need a certification that proving I User:PikDig, in real-life is Christopher Sison Cunanan.

2. Ceritification that I created the following articles on or before June 13, 2006:

3. And certification that I'm an avid contributor to the following articles since June 13, 2006:

And the certification should be signed by you. I am not really forcing you to do this. But I am reuqesting you to do this for me. It is okay if you can't do it. Please and thank you in advance. -chris^_^ 08:39, 20 February 2007 (UTC) p.s. please tell me by February 22, 2007 (GMT +08:00) if you could not do my request, if you agree to do my request please e-mail it to my e-mail ad which is pikdig@gmail.com.

[edit] Escume me!

I'm italian wikipedian. I want know yours opinion of wikipedia in italian language. Thanks and excuse the my bed Englash. ;-) --Elcairo 16:39, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] De facto

Hey, at least the article now follows some outline! ;-) Anyway, that’s why I tagged it for cleanup; I just don’t have the time to do the cleaning up myself. As for Resolution 92-1, nowhere in that document is Tagalog ever mentioned. (I once thought it was when I first found out about in WP itself.) That, as far as I see it, was an intentional loophole, and I’m not going to explain anymore what you could do with that. —Lagalag 07:59, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

…and add to that “at sa iba pang sentrong urban sa arkipelago, na ginagamit bilang wika ng komunikasyon ng mga etnikong grupo (emphasis added),” following a pattern set by the 1973 Constitution. Things could get really interesting should an individual or group (of whatever mother tongue or persuasion) take legal action with regard to Filipino.
As for the cleanup, no problem. Other editors would’ve done the same. —Lagalag 11:30, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Binisaya

Hi Chris. Would you know whether or not the Cebuanos are the only ones who call their language Binisaya? Warays and Illongos--they don't use Binisaya to refer to their languages? Thanks. --Nino Gonzales 05:22, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spanish in Philippines

Unfortunately the "Calendario Atlante De Agostini" from the 1998 edition doesn't show specific data about linguistic minorance of Philippines. In 1997 it reported that more than 3% of people use Spanish as "commercial language" (English 64%). If you want to know something else from C.A.De Agostini I am glad to help you. Bye. --Ermanon 19:32, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

The 1996 version says the same, and the 1995 too. The "Calendario Atlante De Agostini" is a pocket book that every year from more than a century give information on world facts and geography. It is also an atlas (mini-atlas). De Agostini is the main editor company in Italy about geography and publish also encyclopedies. I have some, but not updated. --Ermanon 19:48, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ibali

Nalaman ko sa magulang ko, e Sambal din siya. At oo no, nasiraan din ako ng ulo nang malaman ko na Ibali/e ’yung tawag nila; I’ve always thought they used some mutation of Maynilad, like Menila or something. Anyway, I’ve no real clue idea what Ibali means, but I’m guessing it’s somehow related to the Kapampangan balen. I’m just too lazy to find out myself. —Lagalag 08:02, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Map of Hispanophone World

Hello. I noticed that on the Hispanophone map light blue mentions Chabacano yet The Philippines is not in light blue? Chabacano is a Spanish-based creole im sure that you are aware and The Philippines has much Hispanic influence as it also states in the light blue? I think this map is highly inaccurate?? Is it not? 124.170.132.47 18:46, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

I saw that you are an administrator and that you've edited the map of the hispanophone world. I was wondering if you could assist us or participate on the talk page. Myself and a few others (most notable here) believe that U.S. states where Spanish is not widely spoken should be colored grey and not light green so as not to be misleading. SpiderMMB 02:24, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Filipinos related to Hispanics?

It seems to me that you are the one who is confused...and yes, only around 2% to 3.6% of Filipinos have Spanish/Mexican ancestry (however small the amount). Why is that hard to understand...it is common knowledge. (well, maybe not for everyone) Therefore, Filipinos are not RELATED to Hispanics. You seem to think that by sharing scraps of culture it makes these two groups related...after all, that is what this heading RELATED means...IT DOES NOT say related CULTURE.

So, you would also say that Americans are related to Romans because we share many cultural (Food, Religion, etc.) traits...I think not...(except for those Americans who are indeed descended from Romans). Before switching it back, think hard about it. --Cali567 23:48, 11 March 2007 (UTC)


Excuse me, but you're preaching to the choir...I know what Hispanic means...and, no, they are not "monolithic"...to a point.

First of all:

ethnic group (n.)- people of the same race or nationality who share a distinctive culture. (THATS IN A DICTIONARY)

-and-

An ethnic group or ethnicity is a population of human beings whose members identify with each other, usually on the basis of a presumed common genealogy or ancestry (That's on the ETHNIC GROUP page)

So...Are Filipinos (as we know are malay) and Hispanics (Mestizos and Criollos, etc.) related ethnically?...Do they have a tie? (other than that Filipinos "borrowed" many things)

NO...they do not...of course, what people believe is something totally different! Most Filipinos WANT to be associated with Hispanics...and that is why it is on that page as a related ethnic group...no other reason. Period.

I've spoken to many Filipinos and their knowledge of Hispanic culture is not very sharp...moreover, you can be Italian, German, Irish, Mexican, etc. to be Catholic...that's not a good enough reason. Filipino traditional dress is not Spanish...I've seen pictures...the colors are "malay" and the types of dress do not mimic Spanish style. You'd like to think that, but it is untrue. Surnames in the Philippines are only Spanish (sounding) becuase they were GIVEN.

I've read about Filipino music, and from what I've seen it only has a western tinge...so, NO, Filipino music is not Spanish. If any of these things were "Spanish", Filipinos would be known universally as Hispanic, or an ethnic relation of Hispanics. That is not true...just because YOU want it to be.

So, why in the U.S. are the various Latin American ethnic groups plus the Spanish typically collectivized as "Hispanics"...and Filipinos are not??? Because they are not! Why was it illegal for Filipinos in the 1800's to marry Whites (of German or Mexican extraction)??? Because they were not of the same race, and definitely not a part of the same ethnic group. You refuse to see this as related to race...well, guess what? it is. Please stop this, If it were true it would be known. I hope you understand. --Cali567 03:39, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I wasn't aware I had not been putting my tildes...where did I forget them?

You said,"Because Filipinos and Hispanics overwhelmingly share many of those common traits"...you are not getting it! How come you and only a handful of others are saying that? Hispanics and Filipinos share nothing but a brief colonization with Spain, in the Islands case. The culture is not shared...Filipinos eat worms and bugs as a delicacy, do Spaniards? The overwhelming majority in the Philippines know little about Hispanic culture...believe it or not. Mexico has a french flavor in many areas, but are the two ethnic groups related...probably more so than the Filipinos and Hispanics. But not that much...do you see? Filipinos have a common history with the Latin American countries only because they were all once colonies of Spain. Now, Latin America was heavily influenced...the Philippines were just barely. I bet if we had a vote in a real world situation, people would vote against Filipinos and Hispanics being related ethnically.

Look, if you want to put it on the Spanish-Filipino mestizo article go ahead...but Malay people are NOT ETHNICALLY RELATED TO SPANIARDS, MEXICANS, CHILEANS, CUBANS, ARGENTINIANS, ETC. A common history would be that between Mexico and Cuba, or France and Belgium...not small asian island and Latin America! Moreover, why don't you put Chinese or Americans as "related ethnic groups"? The Chinese have contributed way more than the Spanish...over 10% of the pop. is Chinese descended...culture and all. or Musilms..you know about them in the North and West right? ...How about America, all Filipinos know what American Idol, hamburgers, hip hop, etc. are, right? but No, just Hispanics, huh?

You also say, "However, this does not mean that I know that we are related to them."...are you kidding? Please stop this contradiction. By saying that you ARE saying you want to be associated with them.

And, I apologize if I had the century incorrect...but the marriage law still stands....Let me add, I do not dislike Filipinos, but many need to be what they are...not what they want to be. Cali567 06:13, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bularky

You forgot to sign your comment, (and you remind me to do that). I don't care what one person's opinion are! He's probably not even real! Stop this fake relationship! Never, Never, Never were the islands in asia ever influenced like Latin, yes Latin America...stop! Cali567 05:36, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Four tildes

Hey, buddy...don't I sign with four tildes? when I do it doesn't link...I've seen others with no link too on other pages...???? Cali567 05:05, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

It's a bit scary to know your following me..fanatic gives way to creepy .... ; ] Cali567 05:09, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

"The majority of the inhabitants of Paraguay, the Guaraní, are a perfect example for they have largely preserved their indigenous tongue but yet are still considered Hispanics." -Chris S.

What does that mean? The majority of Paraguay are White/Hispanic...and may be of German, Spanish, Italian, French, etc. descent. And if your trying to compare Amerindians/Spaniards and Native Filipinos/Spaniards this won't work. Amerindians have lived with Spaniards for over 500 years! Filipinos only 300...and they didn't mix in like in Latin America. Your "Spanish" friend who said Native Filipinos and Spaniards are equal to Aztecs/Mayas and Spaniards...is dead wrong... The Philippines never mixed-in like the Latin Americans. Your group tries to "preserve" the "HispanoFilipino" (whatever that is) identity...why should they have too, if most Filipinos, as you claim, share Hispanic roots, culture, religion, language, etc. Your groups consists of "Spanish-Filipinos" who miss the Spanish occupation so much, they try to recreate it...and the majority of Filipinos could care less! Although a Filipino I know has a picture of "Spanish" territory in the Philippines in his bedroom..haha...and he claims he has a great-great-great grandfather who was a Spaniard (while he himself is very short, Asian, and dark)...If that's a related Hispanic group - I guess I don't know about Hispanics! Cali567 18:07, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The IP address discussed at Wikipedia talk:Wikiproject Ethnic Groups

Hi! I'm a member of the above Wikiproject, and it was recently brought to the project's attention that you and other editors of the Bisaya article are having a dispute with an IP editor. I defer to your expertise on the content/labels in dispute, but would offer a friendly reminder to refrain from biting the newcomers. From what I've read, it seems the IP is unfamiliar with talk page etiquette -- simply advising him/her of the guidelines might do a lot to mitigate the content-related issues. As a side note, have you considered joining WikiProject Ethnic Groups? We've developed an article template and infobox, are working on getting assessment efforts going, and act as an expert-mediated content-dispute resource. Whatever you decide, feel welcome to bring conflicts to the project if an expert third opinion would be helpful. Good luck! --Fsotrain09 02:35, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Filipino people

The discussion in the talk page is getting annoying. I was expecting a good discussion but it seems that it boils down to this. I think another guy joined the fray toting a US census or something. Its sad but the opposition fight unfairly (too much assertion too little references). I would like to help but my expertise is Science and not social science and cannot produce something to oppose or support you. However, I would give you this which I hope would make you feel better. --Lenticel 23:26, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

The Resilient Barnstar
For being able to tolerate various criticisms in Talk:Filipino people and still produce claims based on reliable sources Lenticel 23:26, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes, he deserves it! Cali567 23:53, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Congrats! You're a finalist for the Philippine Blog Awards!

See this page under the Socio-political category. Cheers! --seav 15:35, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Congrats as well. I've also read your name in StarStudio or Yes! magazine (not sure) in a column by a person who traces origins of words, he mentioned your research in the origin of the word Pinoy I believe. Hehe keep up the good work. =) Berserkerz Crit 10:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Ok I perused our magazines again and you are mentioned in Yes! magazine March 2007 issue by Jose F. Lacaba in his column Showbiz Lengua in tracing the origin of the word Pinoy. Berserkerz Crit 16:37, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Philipines and Spanish language

Hello Christopher,

I'm admin on commons and I have some difficuties with commons:user:Satesclop about the Image:Map-Hispanophone World.png （he simply don't want talk, and neither cite his sources）. Have you some data about spanish in Philipines to put there : commons:Image_talk:Map-Hispanophone_World.png#Philipines_opinions (?% + web-link toward your source) . Thanks. --Yug (talk) 18:36, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] From Angelo

Huh? You must be looking for someone else... there are a lot of us Angelo Piccios out there after all...

Hey, of course I do! And congrats for making it to the blog awards finals. --Charlie P. 15:16, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Nyek. Oh well. Right now, besides the mundane, I've been devouring books, on really diverse topics. What about you? How much Italian, oh, I'm very Italian, like 100%. What do you mean exactly? If you're talking genes, I'll tell you now: I don't know. I never really bothered with that--it's rather something I feel. I can't really explain it. I'm, like I said, 100% Italian, but that doesn't mean I'm 0% Filipino--in fact, I'm 100% Filipino, as well, and I feel very strongly about that. I'd also say I'm 100% Kapampangan, but I can't tell you how much Kapampangan "blood" runs through my veins. I don't even understand Kapampangan. Am I making sense?
Okay, I admit, them other kids did make fun of our "big" noses in grade school haha. I don't think I look particularly Italian, but I wouldn't say the same for my dad and my uncle. --Charlie P. 16:51, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
No clear idea. Probably our Visayan relatives know. --Charlie P. 09:56, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re Flip (slang)

Hey I wanted to ask your opinion on this. Message me if you have time to explain its origins, usage and whatnots. Berserkerz Crit 22:35, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Everything. But first of all, I'd like to know if it is derogatory or bordering on racist slur because I really don't see it as a term of endearment. How and why could the article say that. Berserkerz Crit 09:04, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Hmm okay but I've never heard it much in newspapers or whatnots. And I don't like it personally. Pinoy is already ok me thinks. Thanks. >_< =P Berserkerz Crit 02:12, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Blog Awards pictures

I've blogged about it: http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com/posts/belated_pba_night_post  :) --seav 12:10, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Of interest

Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Tobias_Conradi. ShivaIdol 07:18, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why did you revert my edits?

Chris, Why, considering WP:V did you revert my edits today which added source citations to several articles? -- Boracay Bill 06:05, 13 May 2007 (UTC) Ah. I see. Still, assertions like this ought to cite a supporting source IMHO. -- Boracay Bill 10:02, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Ph pres aquino.jpg

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[edit] Visayas - Alpha Phi Omega

I agree that Bisaya is not where that link should actually go. The first 7 chapters in question are Far Eastern U (Manila), National University (Manila), Silliman University (Dumaguete City), Mapua Inst of Tech (Manila), University of the East (Manila), West Negros College(Bacolod City), University of the Philippines (Quezon City (Manila Metro)). The non-Manila Metro colleges (Silliman and West Negros) seem to geographically Visayas rather than specifically tied to the Viyasan People. Perhaps the link should go to Visayas instead. I'm looking for your help as someone much more tied to the area than I.72.244.26.2 12:36, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Citilogo.gif

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[edit] Panahon pa ni ...

Hi, I recently posted a question about this phrase in the Tambayan. We already tracked Mahoma (who was actually the prophet Mohammed) and Limahong (the pirate). However, we cannot find who Kopong-kopong was. In my opinion, he is a real person since the other people used in this phrase are real and famous ones. Care to find out who or what it is?--Lenticel (talk) 04:50, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Original Barnstar

The Original Barnstar
I thought I'd give you this barnstar for your impressive edits I have been noticing in numerous articles. Wikidudeman (talk) 05:31, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reverting edits in AfD?

You just reverted my comment on an AfD. Care to explain why? Ichibani utc 05:41, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Seems you did it because of the garbage html that got thrown in there (it's a bug in popups?) If you see that happen, it would be nice if you fix it rather than revert the entire comment. Ichibani utc 05:46, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Garyvalenciano.jpg

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[edit] Moldovan news on cable

Christopher -- Answering your question about cable systems with Moldovan news:

There's an educational non-profit group called SCOLA (http://www.scola.org) which rebroadcasts TV programs in numerous languages -- half an hour of this, followed by half an hour of that, etc., etc., 24/7. One of SCOLA's five channels is carried on the Stanford University campus cable system. I work at Stanford and live in a townhouse complex adjacent to the campus that is owned by the university and receives telephone, cable, and Internet service from the campus IT group. The daily SCOLA programming I get includes 45 minutes from Romania (TVR1) and 30 minutes from Moldova (NIT) -- news programs in each case.

Richwales 16:13, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Common phrases AfD

I do apologize for not answering earlier, didn't notice that you'd commented there as well. In answer to your question, I see a lot being brought up there, including questions of whether it's verifiable (the meaning of a phrase tends to be rather nuanced and often more than the sum of its parts, for example, the English "I'd bet my life on it" has a meaning far different than what the dictionary definitions of the individual words would seem to indicate). Also, in terms of pure vote-counting, many argued to transwiki (for which a history restore was offered if/when anyone was getting ready to do so), but thus far no one's taken that up. However, "transwiki" is still indicating the sentiment "this isn't an appropriate topic for Wikipedia." Your keep argument was one I thought hard about, and indeed was the best one in the discussion, but the arguments that it would find a better and more appropriate home on another project such as Wikiversity or Wikibooks were widely-supported and ultimately convincing. Seraphimblade Talk to me 18:58, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Filipinos.jpg listed for deletion

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[edit] List of common phrases in various languages

Thanks Epson291 18:58, 20 July 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Spanish Map

I saw from the edit history that you've changed the map before. I was wondering if you could help us to change it. Even though I'm a bit defensive because I think some people are agenda-pushing, the map really does have accuracy issues and needs to be changed. I also see that you're an administrator so I was hoping you could help. If not, could you perhaps link me on my talk page to a place where I can learn how to change the map myself? I'm new to Wikimedia Commons and a bit lost on that site. SpiderMMB 20:11, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't think we have to limit it to places where it's official. The other maps color places where it is unofficial but important. However, we need to limit it to places that have cited, significant Spanish speaking populations. Here is my list of suggested changes for the map, and you can find my reasoning for each of them at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image_talk:Map-Hispanophone_World.png :
  • Color in a lighter shade of blue that signifies "unofficial but important": the U.S. States of Arizona, California, New Mexico, Nevada, Texas, Florida, New York, New Jersey, and Illinois; Belize; Andorra; Gibraltar.
  • Place a blue dot on the areas of Spain contested with Morocco: Peñón de Alhucemas, Isla Perejil, Ceuta, the Chafarinas Islands, Melilla, Peñón de Vélez de la Gomera.
  • Remove the coloring completely from Brazil, Western Sahara, the Philippines, and other places where Spanish's status is questionable and uncited. SpiderMMB 03:05, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your help! The map looks a lot better. As for your comment about "unsatisfied customers," yes, they will always exist. Of course there is the anonymous IP address, who I feel will always have some criticism or perceived "bias" about the Spanish language page and map. But I feel comfortable that we are making progress in the map's accuracy. At some point I'll get around to changing the legend so that it matches the new map. There were, however, some valid points raised by one of the users. I posted his comment below for your consideration. Perhaps you can look into it when you get back from Oregon. Thanks again for your help, and enjoy your trip! SpiderMMB 02:30, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Problems that remain!

The map is much better now, after Christopher Sundita's intervention. But some problems still remain, such as:

  1. Aruba is still marked - it shouldn't.
  2. Trinidad and Tobago is still marked - it shouldn't.
  3. Netherlands Antilles is still marked - it shouldn't.
  4. Falklands Islands is still marked - it shouldn't.

These need urgent correction! Thank you. The Ogre 12:51, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unofficial Spanish

Just a suggestion that Andorra, Gibraltar, and the areas contested by Spain/Morocco be colored in the unofficial color. The areas are so small that it might not come up on the map, so maybe a small dot or a square could indicate it. Let me know what you think when you get back -- I'm a little sick of dealing with map issues at the moment and think I'll take a break myself. SpiderMMB 02:21, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Identification vs. plain ancestry

I dare not say that "American Filipino" would strictly qualify as a neologism, since it derives naturally from "Chinese Filipino" and others. There is, however, a more important point here that I'd like to make.

There are hundreds if not thousands of Filipinos of American ancestry (i.e. descended from US citizens), but how many of them will really identify as Americans? (In fact, I've been asking myself why does an article even exist for them--those who are simply of American descent?) It just doesn't make as much sense, in my opinion, creating an article for people of a certain ancestry (Filipinos of X descent) as it would an article of an ethnic group (X Filipino). "Descent/ancestry" articles are, to me, as meaningless as articles on languages with words derived from Greek. Just think of how absurd it would be to create an article on "Filipinos of Ilocano descent" who do not necessarily identify as Ilocanos. --Angelo 09:15, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 3RR

Hi, I'm just trying to understand your actions here for my own understanding of how wikipedia works, I'm not looking for an argument or anything, just your take on this. I was reading HiramShadraski's talk page and saw that you blocked him/her for violating 3RR. Although he/she claimed 2 reverts which is obviously wrong, I only count 3 reverts (and one initial addition). 3RR states that more than 3 reverts are not allowed. As far as I can see, he/she should not have been blocked. Is the initial addition normally taken as a "revert"? That doesn't make any sense to me. Please correct me if I am wrong. Thanks, Capuchin 13:32, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lucoes, Looc, and Etymology Sources for Tagalog Words and Names

Hi Chris. I'm starting some preliminary research for a novel of mine set in Prehispanic Southern Luzon, so I'm rather badly in need of a quick reference for the etymology of Filipino words. Would you by any chance have any ideas?

Also, I keep reading about the Portuguese identifying sailors from Luzon as Lucoes, and while it has been suggested here [2] that the Portuguese are simply referring to Luzon as "Lucao" as their variant of the chinese term "Lusung", I cant help but be tortured by the similarity to "Ilocos." (The Ilocano wiki suggests that the term comes from the Ilocano looc, meaning bay.) I was just hoping you'd tell me if I'm making a false connection. Because if there's a conection between Ilocos and Lucoes, I'm certainly making a Lucoes wiki. :-D

And as a last question, would you be aware of how Filipinos would have come up with their names before the Spanish arrived? Naming seems to be a problematic aspect of writing for my 9th century setting.

Thanks! Alternativity 10:30, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Major Languages in the Philippines

Northern Bikol and Southern Bikol are not specific languages --Filipinayzd 21:00, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Major languages: Central Bicolano (of Northern Bikol), Albay Bicolano (Souther Bikol)
Recognized language: Central Bicolano or Bikol (of Bikol languages) -Filipinayzd (talk) 22:21, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Voting for the Tambayan Philippines Collaboration #1 is ongoing

Hi! The voting for the article to be the first target of Tambayan Philippines Collaboration Department is ongoing. Please vote even if it is abstain. Thanks! --seav 14:07, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] THE MAP YOU MIGHT NEED

Hi, I was wondering if you still need the map about Philippines you've been looking for. Just in case you were referring to this one KABEET.COM. Or the more detailed street level that will zoom into the street directly STREET LEVEL VIEW Unfortunately some administrators do not want it to be shown, I just hope you find it relevant for the Philippine articles and help me convince them that it might deserve a spot in wiki. Thanks —Sambuddy 15:08, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh by the way, I've seen that you are planning to make articles about Waray-waray dialect. I am from Samar and I think I can help you about this topic. thanks. Sambuddy Talk —Preceding comment was added at 15:25, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedya

I've seen your name in an old discussion in Tambayan Philippines regarding the renaming of Tagalog wikis. And I've formally proposed it to the Tagalog Wikipedia here, I only need some consensus. I believe some comments or votes will be useful. Thanks. -- Felipe Aira 11:06, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merry Christmas in Chavacano

Felices Pascua/Feliz Navidad! --Weekeejames (talk) 17:57, 26 December 2007 (UTC)