User talk:ChristianEdwardGruber

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[edit] bahai covenant breaker

just go ahead and make those changes, your control of language and availabliility of information is excellent. Rick Boatright 13:28, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Comments on my talk page

Its really funny, we do get some very aggressive anti-Baha'i contributors on wikipedia. Fair enough to them, but it all tends to be very emotive. That particular comment was from (a complete guess here) a Bayani (modern Azali). Had to clean up a lot of vandalism from him. My favourite contribution from him was a link to a dicussion board between two Baha'is saying they should "vote with their money"... ie hold back contributions until the Universal House of Justice hears their pleas (I think they were unhappy about spending lots of money on the Arc, the Chillean House of worship etc). Its been rather calm for around a month now.

Oh well. Generally speaking, make your changes on wikipedia without seeking approval from talk pages - someone (normally myself, Rick, or Occammy) will have a gander at it and if theres a dispute we can use the talk pages to clarify.

Sorry about the photo of Baha'u'llah at the bottom of his page. Don't try reasoning that it needs removal though - we had a long fight to restrain it to at the bottom of only one article and that was only down to luck. -- Tomhab 15:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Another welcome message

Hi. As you've been looking at Baha'i articles and their discussion pages, I guess you already know a little something about me from my past contributions. I'd noticed you'd being doing a thing or two - now I've finally got around to saying hello properly. Welcome to Wikipedia - hope you'll have fun around here. PaulHammond 07:34, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Baha'i page

Ah well don't worry about it. I basically wanted to get a full revert with justification that any attempt to redo it will be considered vandalism. We'll see how it turns out anyway.

I'll leave it a bit and make a few changes. His addition of the Bayani bit (he's a returning Anon who I suspect of being one or at least a sympathiser - I think I mentioned him before to you) is pretty blatent plugging. We'll see what happens. As we're around 1000 times larger than the other sects, I don't think we need such a significant change. -- Tomhab 13:42, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Previously everything on wikipedia that refered to Baha'i was "Haifan" unless said otherwise. Now it changes the tone where we need to say exactly what Baha'i it is every time the word Baha'i is used. The template {{Bahá'í}} is entirely about the "Haifan" Baha'is and will thus need changing. Do we include Abdu'l-Baha and/or Shoghi Efendi as a central personage in the Baha'i faith as the "Baha'i family society" does not recognise them? It gets a lot more complicated. I'd rather just keep it as it was really.... Anyway todays busy for me so I can't really do much until tomorrow. -- Tomhab 15:08, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)


[edit] non-Bah�'� page

I'm not sure we need it. Just letting you know that I dropped a comment on its talk page. PaulHammond 15:23, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hi again

Just remembered that I've got a long email from you that I've been meaning to reply to.

I'm planning on getting to it sometime over the weekend, in between watching the Wimbledon finals on the BBC. Give me a nudge if I still haven't written to you by Monday! PaulHammond June 30, 2005 11:37 (UTC)

[edit] Greetings

A page that you joined to help with associate with other members of the Wikipedia community is on VfD. Please see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Wikipedian citizens of the world, and the related page Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Wikipedian supporters of the sovereign nation-state. Cognition 09:30, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] In case you're interested:

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[edit] Cole and the covenant

I'm aware of Cole not being a covenant breaker. An over zealous wikipedian put that up and I felt it wasn't even worth a response. -- Tomhab 18:22, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] d with a dot

I don't think you can do it in HTML - its not part of the ASCII char set. You have to use unicode: {{Unicode|Riḍván}} forms Riḍván -- Tomhab 23:30, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] World Citizen userbox, {{User:1ne/Userboxes/User world}}

Hi, I noticed the message saying you're a World Citizen, I would like to invite you to add {{User:1ne/Userboxes/User world}} to your user page if you wish to proclaim it in a more effective way, and this template will also add you automatically to the Wikipedians with World Citizenship category. :) --Mistress Selina Kyle 23:54, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Graph

We were editing the graph on Baha'i divisions at the same time. I edited over yours because I made a lot of other changes, and we were actually doing the same thing. Try looking at it now and see if I missed anything that you were just working on. Cuñado - Talk 19:28, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Messages on your Wikisource talk page

Hi, there are a couple of messages on your Wikisource talk page. 213.120.56.41 21:02, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank You

Wherefore, O my loving friends! Consort with all the peoples, kindreds and religions of the world with the utmost truthfulness, uprightness, faithfulness, kindliness, good-will and friendliness, that all the world of being may be filled with the holy ecstasy of the grace of Baha, that ignorance, enmity, hate and rancor may vanish from the world and the darkness of estrangement amidst the peoples and kindreds of the world may give way to the Light of Unity. (Abdu'l-Baha, The Will and Testament, p. 14)

I just wanted to thank you for being an admirable example of this exhortation of the Master's, and reminding me what exactly it looks like. You've more than once offered contributions to wording being wrangled over, effectively dissolving the issue. I'm glad to now you're around, offering positive imput wherever you go. Wikipedia is all the better for it <:0) User:Jeffmichaud 06 January 2006

[edit] God and Monotheism

I dont see Bahai...if the views are covered in nonspecific subheadings, please create a Bahai section on the pages. KI 21:01, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Nevermind. I'm breaking the sections into smaller ones based on individual religions. Thanks for adding Bahai views. KI 21:08, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Project

Hi, my name is Federico (alias Pain) and I am creating a section for nominating th best user page, I was wondering if you were interested in joining the project.

The project has just started, and we need help to spread the word and ameliorate it.

Wikipedia:Votes_for_best_User_page

Best regards, Federico Pistono ✆ ✍ 14:28, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikimedia Canada

Hi there! I'd like to invite you to explore Wikimedia Canada, and create a list of people interested in forming a local chapter for our nation. A local chapter will help promote and improve the organization, within our great nation. We'd also like to encourage everyone to suggest projects for our national chapter to participate in. Hope to see you there!--DarkEvil 17:11, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Templates

But it will take me some time. Electionworld = Wilfried (talk 16:44, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] You have a new page in your user space

I stumbled across a personal to do list you created in article space and moved it to your user space as User:ChristianEdwardGruber/Greatest Name/to do. If you no longer need it, you may have it deleted. -- DS1953 talk 18:44, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] E-mail

Hey Christian, just wondering if you got the e-mail I sent to you today? -- Jeff3000 02:32, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Hey Christian, take a look at this Talk:Juan Cole. -- Jeff3000 16:54, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shunning page edits

I'm just glad you left me something to do. I don't always have time for major edits lately, but copyediting is something I can take a few minutes for as time comes up. Sxeptomaniac 16:32, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to VandalProof!

Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, ChristianEdwardGruber! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply download and install VandalProof from our main page. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other moderator, or you can post a message on the discussion page. Computerjoe's talk 18:42, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] In future, if you will propose my contributions for deletion...

In future, if you will propose my contributions for deletion, please make a more reasonable attempt to contact me, especially given that my wikipedia page is listed on my wikisource page, and my e-mail is registered in the system. (reference to the Baha'i texts from the Baha'i Library). All of the texts mentioned there, except for one, can be sourced from public domain sources. It's a small courtesy given the hours and hours that went into formatting them. Thank you. --Christian Edward Gruber 16:01, 9 June 2006 (UTC) (en.wikipedia.org talk page)

Please notice I did not propose your contributions for deletion. [1] I did speak up during the disscusion to say there were serious copuright concerns with these texts. And despite my best efforts at research into issue I could not find the definative answer that was needed. I truly spent a good amount of time looking into it. But I could not find out if these were published in the UK or US and who was responsible for the translations to English. Also the dates of publication I found were not clear if they refered to the original or English translation. I would love to have these texts on Wikisource but I am afraid they do not meet our stringent license requirements. I would be happy to temporaly restore them to give you a chance to save your formatting at anytime. I am sorry your hard work no longer is a part of the project, and that you were unware of that concerns were raised about it. Please let me know what I can do to help.--Birgitte§β ʈ Talk 16:23, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
I think your tone was simply frustrated and was not at all offended. I believe I have restored everything. Let me know if I missed something or else when you are done with it. I do not believe anyone would want these deleted if the copyright were worked out. I can always restore them again if that can be settled. A trick to finding the disscusion of a deleted article is this. Go to the page where article used to be and in the left margin there is a link called "What links here". If you click on that it gives a listing of all the places that page exists as a red link, including the archives of proposed deletions. Let me know if you need any other help.--Birgitte§β ʈ Talk 17:33, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bahai resources

Hi,

If you can show me that the resources are in the public domain or under a GFDL compatible license, I will gladly restore them. But according to the Terms of Use where the texts were taken from, there were restrictions on usage which violated both WS and WMF (more importantly) copyright policy. Sorry you weren't notified about the deletion. Please contact me if we were mistaken about the copyright status/license of those works or if you'd like to save any of your effort put into those texts.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 23:50, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Hello, I see that you have had some trouble with license issues and baha'i materials. I am having the same problem with my spiritual identification. My mother is baha'i and I personally am part of a constituency of individuals known as the brights. If you feel images have been unfairly deleted or are improperly labeled "fair use" "copyrighted" or otherwise then please let me know and maybe we can do something about it. Solidusspriggan 18:40, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] spelling

Hey thanks ;) I'm usually a master speller, but you really got me on that one. Cuñado - Talk 18:07, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sandbox

I hope you don't mind editing your sandbox. It still needs a lot of work. -- Jeff3000 16:43, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Same to you :) I just got back from a long day in Barrie. Just checking up on the changes throughout the day. -- Jeff3000 04:09, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] {{unsigned}}

A template does exist, it's {{unsigned}} (I'm not that patient to write all that out). You can use it as {{subst:unsigned|USERNAME}}. -- —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jeff3000 (talk • contribs) .

So ironic, I'm explaining how to use the template, and don't sign my comment myself. -- Jeff3000 22:03, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Restorationism

The Restorationism article is in terrible shape. Amongst its many problems is a complete lack of citations. Do you have any online resources that you feel might help in a cleanup of that article? Everything from style and form to grammar needs attention; I'm willing to do a chunk of the work in cleanup, but I don't have the source background to do it right. Anything you can direct me towards would be appreciated. Thanks, -Kevin/Last1in 22:05, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I'll do the work if you can point me toward sources. Thanks, Kevin/Last1in 01:40, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject South Park

I have thought of creating a WikiProject for South Park since it is now near its' 10th anniversary and has more articles than ever. I feel we could all do the following things through this project:

  • Cleanup any short/poorly written/unformatted articles
  • Merge/lengthen the many character articles
  • Improve the South Park main page

I have seen your South Park fan template and wondered if you were interested in joining. If so reply to my talk page and I'll get back to you as quick as I can. Thanks, Mr. Garrison

[edit] Signatures in talk pages

My use of three tilde instead of four is deliberate. Due to my Engrish, I frequently need to revise and correct my comments which make use of four tilde inappropriate. Once someone respond to my comment, I usually don't alter my comment. I'm sorry but use of ":" seems to be enough for most people to follow the flow of the debate. Vapour

[edit] Always nice to see you

It's always nice to see you on the Baha'i pages. Clear, lucid, and calm. I don't seem to be able to keep more than two of those balls up at a time. Keep your stick on the ice. MARussellPESE 05:24, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ahmadiyya pages

Hi, I just wanted to convey my appreciation for the work you are doing on the Ahmadiyya pages. I agree with your vision for three pages and will help out in anyway I can. Best regards, Nazli 01:31, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I just have seen that you removed and edited alot of information on Ahmadiyya related pages and on Mirza Ghulam Ahmad artical. If you think that the section his claim, should be written in summary style then you should write the section Controversial death in summary style and link it with his Prophecies Page. This section look like full of POV statement given imprssion that because he was wrong so alot of his prophecies did not come true. We can not decide he was right or wrong, this is not our job. phippi46 11:19, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

  • It is good to see that you want to make these Articals more Enclypodiac and not POV statements. I have just seen another section in Ahmadiyyat Artical about the Prophecies of Ghulam Ahmad .. It is unfit and should be moved to either Mirza Ghulam Ahmad or to Prophecies artical. The Ahmadiyya artical is different and Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Artical is different. Also I will like to see any suggestion from you to reduce POVs from Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Artical. phippi46 11:09, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Ahmadiyya

The category you wrote, Category:Ahmadiyya, is uncategorized. Please help improve it by adding it to one or more categories, so it may be associated with related categories.Eli Falk 11:17, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Smile

James, La gloria è a dio has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Keep up your good work here.--James, La gloria è a dio 20:18, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikireligion

Since you are a bahai I thought you may be interested in writting for my wiki wikireligion. Peace. --James, La gloria è a dio 19:52, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Aikido style vs. organizations

Howdy, could you explain the major benefit of having two categories related to Aikido styles / organizations? I don't see there being a big enough distinction to justify it. Feel free to reply here - I'll watch. Thanks! Mrand T-C 15:45, 16 June 2007 (UTC)


Well, for one, Ki-Society and Ki-Aikido are two distinct things. They have different pages, and the page on Ki-Aikido isn't really an organization, but it's comparable - as a category - to the style practiced by Aikikai, Shin-Budo Kai, etc. It's not a huge thing, but a style and the organization that may primarily be organized around it are different. If there's a name for a category that is more ambiguous and does a good job of organizing both concepts together, then that's cool.

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[edit] Muda (battle cry)

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Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 02:24, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] CFD

Hi, you previously commented on this CFD, and a similar one is up for deletion here. Please comment when you get a chance. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 06:16, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:NPOV DUE

Dear ChristianEdwardGruber,

I thank you for your contributions concerning my proposals to get more clarity on the DUE WEIGHT issue. I've drafted new proposals, and would welcome any improvement or critique you may have! Thx,  — Xiutwel ♫☺♥♪ (speech has the power to bind the absolute) 09:39, 1 March 2008 (UTC)