User talk:Chris Hobeck

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[edit] I hope you don't mind...

But I borrowed the Way of the Master userbox you made, you don't mind if I do that, do you? Homestarmy 01:59, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Of course not! That's why I made it. ;-) MessengerAtLWU 02:19, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks :) Homestarmy 02:29, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

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Thanks for reminding me, Carnildo. I fixed it. MessengerAtLWU 17:14, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Are you very busy doing anything?

We're having a very large degree of trouble over on the Jesus article, and with you being a person on the great news network and all, do you think you have the free time to help us out? We're engaged in an edit war right now over possibly the most irrelevant matters over word choices, we can't get consensus because people keep refusing it, and since Jesus is, after all, the reason for The Way of the Master, I thought i'd ask if you have time to help us :/. The more the merrier after all! :D Homestarmy 22:33, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Love to, but as a student in college I'm very busy right now. I've tried to stay away from that article for that very reason, but I'll try to come over sometime this weekend. --MessengerAtLWU 22:36, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
We're having a big vote on the Jesus talk page right now, if you don't want to get really involved that's ok, but it looks like everyone is basically calling in all their friends to vote heh. This one sentence about the Jesus-myth theory has been really slowing things down :/. Homestarmy 22:17, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

On the Way of the Master page, do you know anything about the objections this anon is trying to put into the article? Because it seems to be compleatly OR, and I can only NPOV it with....more OR, and im at a bit of a loss. Homestarmy 23:54, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

As am I. I'll try to look at it later. --MessengerAtLWU 00:37, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
You can't be NPOV about a particular religion, especially if you have been indoctrinated into its beliefs.
Well the NPOV process isn't perfect, we'll sort it out eventually maybe. Homestarmy 22:15, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bible at WikiKnowledge

I have set up my own wiki, and I have just uploaded a Public Domain version of Genesis. However the page is extremely long and needs to be split up into smaller pages. This is not something I would be able to do as I have little interest or knowledge on the subject but perhaps you might be interested in having a look at it. http://www.gmcfoley.com/wiki/index.php?title=Bible/Genesis. I also have Public Domain versions of the other books which I would be happy to upload if someone was interested in formatting them. I should also point out that my entire wiki is Public Domain also. Please let me know if you are interested. Thanks, Gerard Foley 03:37, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Got any advice? :/

Im trying to prove to someone that Jesus is God scripturally speaking, but i've never actually had to do this before, and you are the GNN guy whereas im kind of, ahem, not, so do you think you could give me any advice, the conversation started on Talk:Christianity and moved over to User talk:Oscillate where i've just submitted my post, but is there any advice you could give me? I have to leave right now and won't be back to answer anything he says until next afternoon I figure :/. Homestarmy 02:28, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Absolutely! Try the Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry (direct link); they're not really related to WOTM/GNN (though a lot of the stuff of the guy who runs the site is in the School of Biblical Evangelism textbooks), but I love the materials on their site. Specfically, try here for info on Jesus as God. MessengerAtLWU (talk | contribs) 02:37, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Ah, I didn't even see that CARM had an article on this, I would of used it sooner probably, thanks! :) Homestarmy 00:11, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Arg, I think almost all of that came from the Evidence Bible though, and I already used it :(. Homestarmy 00:13, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Oh, okay. I'll be praying; let me know if you need anything else! MessengerAtLWU (talk | contribs) 00:16, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WOTM @ the Christianity Portal

Hi there, and thanks for submitting the lead for the Way of the Master article! Unfortunately, one day's notice is a bit too late, and papal conclave has been chosen for featuring in June. However, the work you submitted looks good, and could be shown in July. How does that sound? All the best, Brisvegas 10:13, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Sorry about taking so long; work has really been tiring me out the past week or two. MessengerAtLWU (talk | contribs) 13:39, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

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The banana lie....

That lie about ray ocmfort coverting because of a banana needs to be removed. i contacted way of the master and they said theyll get somebody to monitor it....

First of all, don't just randomly delete stuff on my talk page and replace it with your own. That's just rude. Add your statements to the bottom of the page.
Second of all, if someone (if *MULTIPLE* someones) ask you to discuss it on the talk page before doing another revert, then do it please.
Third, that has nothing to do with this discussion. Homestarmy and I have been trying to get you to stop reverting stuff. The paragraph describes what Comfort considers to be a watershed event in his life. Therefore, it is notable.
Please, be nice your fellow editors, and try to work together with us! MessengerAtLWU (talk | contribs) 02:30, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to the club

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[edit] The GNN thing

I don't know when you'll read this next, but i'm just curious, this thing with the GNN letter, was this meant to be some sort of private kind of thing? Because its accessable over the internet, someone posted the URL in the Great News Network article, though that was reverted by someone saying it was private, whom I just reverted, on the grounds that if its accessable, it isn't very private. (Plus, I just don't like hiding things like this in general) All i've seen about this so far is the newsblast letter Living Waters sent out (which doesn't go into specifics much) and now the actual PDF letter thing without any possible other background there might be on whatever part of GNN this was posted, so i'm a bit in the dark about what to do about all this. Homestarmy 22:08, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

To be honest, the past 28 hours I've been avoiding Wikipedia for this very reason. One of the first things I thought of when I got the e-mail from LW was the fallout here on the wiki. Darrel did not for a while want the article posted even on the private SBE forum, much less on Wikipedia, but at the moment I'm not sure how and if that's changed. Is the link that's on the page now the one that includes his two followup clarifications? If you post the link, make sure it's to that one.
Sigh, I don't think I can go near those articles, or even look at my watchlist at all, right now. For the moment, I'd say leave Darrel and GNN up on the article series menu, and make sure when people write about this that it's crystal clear there is almost no public knowledge as to the specifics (even for those within GNN like myself), and anything else except what the LW e-mail stated would be speculation. Of course, I'm sure you knew that, but it's been the craziest couple days I've had in quite a while. And it's complicated by the fact it happened the day before Darrel and a bunch of the GNN staff left for a boot camp in Miami, then Darrel is in Maui for a week (I think it's for his newspaper business). MessengerAtLWU (talk | contribs) 00:48, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
What's got me concerned someone might make a fight about the PDF being linked from Wikipedia is that although the actual URL works, it appears www.thegreatnews.com/downloads/ is actually "forbidden", which I presume means the general public isn't technically supposed to be in there, yet it apparently doesn't apply to the actual files in this part of the domain. If there's two followup things, those links would probably be really helpful if you can find them. Homestarmy 02:16, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, that is usually standard Web server maintenance policy, to make sure people can't access the directory itself and grab all the files at once. As to the link to the updated article, I'll ask them.
Ooh, just remembered. There is a public link they've made available for that purpose. It's [1]. --MessengerAtLWU (talk | contribs) 04:58, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
I've linked to the pages of Darrel's clarifying posts. I gotta say, I certainly understand how many people on that thread don't like it when people are quarreling with each other, but quite frankly, looking over that thread, I don't see any quarreling at all, just a few posts which are slightly uneasy and a whole bunch of congradulatory posts. Homestarmy 14:03, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

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