Talk:Chrysanthemum

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[edit] Description

Can somebody add some better descriptions of the flowers that are included in this genus, and what sets them apart? I.e. how can one identify a chrysanthemum (for example, to impress your girlfriend). The flowers in the pictures on this page look very different from each other.

Also, what the heck does this mean: "Today’s flowers are not as bright or large as ‘show’ varieties."

[edit] Japanese name

July 28, 2005 edited "shingiku (シンギク)" with the correct "shungiku (春菊[シュンギク])" - genehardesty@gmail.com


I believe it's "kiku", actually. I don't know what that shun/shin is doing in front of it. But then again, I'm only in Japanese 200 so I could be wrong. - vincent.markham@gmail.com (71.112.143.26 01:45, 16 January 2007 (UTC))

菊 is for the flower in general, 春菊 (Garland chrysanthemum) is a specific type of 菊, so it is correct in the context of the article Shogyou Mujou 21:45, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

"Kiku" changes to "giku" when in compound form, just as "sakura" changes to "zakura." 69.215.155.4 (talk) 04:57, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] symbolism

Question. The Chrysanthemum is symbolic of death in china? Is it not also the royal crest and the subject of a Festival of Happiness? This seems contradictory to me. Can anyone confirm and find a reference? -- Eyvin 00:57, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes and no. It IS the traditional flower used during funerals (especially white chrysanthemums).

And yes, it is the royal Imperial crest (along with the crest of various other royal houses during the Feudal era). To be, it's not that contradictory. It's a sign of respect (of course, you don't go giving someone hospitalized white chrysanthemums, especially planted ones). - genehardesty@gmail.com (March 16, 2006)

The Chrysanthemum is the Imperial crest of japan. Someone smarter then me should verify this and stick it in there. - vincent.markham@gmail.com (71.112.143.26 01:38, 16 January 2007 (UTC))

[edit] nutrition

Chrysanthemum is consumed in china in a variety of ways? Can anyone let us know about its nutritional components such as carbohydrate (e.g.starch etc) contents and the different kinds of sugars in it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hussainahmad (talk • contribs)

[edit] petals

Is it a silly question to ask how many petals chrysanthemums have? I see they are dicots, which of course have multiples of 4 or 5, but these have quite a lot of petals. Can anyone explain the evolutionary purpose of this modification? Misterniceguy7 20:40, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm guessing by "petal" you mean ray floret? See Asteraceae for a few details. SB Johnny 15:22, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks... I should have just looked into it a little more in the first place. Misterniceguy7 01:57, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Disambiguation of the genus needed

Might be a good idea to have a separate page to disambiguate this genus, as nurseries, florae, etc. often use names within the genus that are no longer in the genus. Redirects might also be a wise idea. I'll post on Wikipedia:WikiProject_Horticulture_and_Gardening as well. SB Johnny 15:25, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Potent Insectidal Propreties?

Is it possible to use the pyrethroid macromolecules present in Chrysanthemum as an insecticide in a similar fashion as used in commercial bug-sprays? If so, then how can one extract & utilize the pyrethroids? Vader1941 18:52, 4 September 2006 (UTC)vader1941

[edit] plural

Should the plural for "Chrysanthemum" be "Chrysanthema"? Latin neuter nouns ending in -um normally have the plural -a, eg Bacteria. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jontsang (talkcontribs) 18:09, 20 January 2007 (UTC).

According to the wiktionary page, it is from Greek. --Soliloquial (talk) 05:04, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Smelly"

Well, I saw this in the article:

Modern chrysanthemums are much more smelly than people tend to think or believe.

and don't quite see how it is informative or factual. It seems to be someone's opinion... --Soliloquial (talk) 20:27, 18 November 2007 (UTC)


---Big Mistake--- I dont know how to fix it but i will let you know and im sure someone here knows. There is a pic at the bottom of this page, its a japanese representation of the crys flower. the title under it is a dead link to the " yashakuni shrine" thats a transiteration error. its really spelled the "yasukuni shrine". wiki already has a good article on the real shrine. Please fix it.